Message from @Deleted User

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2017-05-19 05:05:56 UTC  

When I talk to Marxist-Leninists

2017-05-19 05:06:08 UTC  

An aristocrat is their hero, in the movement for the workers'

2017-05-19 05:06:24 UTC  

And what do you define communism as?

2017-05-19 05:06:42 UTC  

If aristocrat is on the side of proletariat its all good.

2017-05-19 05:06:46 UTC  

"It is unfortunate the the aloof bourgeois still do not understand the necessity of working with their employees rather than distancing themselves and allowing for others to take their place in that area" The national bourgeoisie

2017-05-19 05:07:27 UTC  

Other aristocrat: Gyorgy Lukacs

2017-05-19 05:07:48 UTC  

Very few who shed blood became influential in that system.

2017-05-19 05:08:32 UTC  

Those who labored, and later fed up and sacrificed never ascended, instead allowing those who did neither to instead.

2017-05-19 05:09:43 UTC  

Lenin was sent to prison

2017-05-19 05:09:47 UTC  

Marx to the exile

2017-05-19 05:09:55 UTC  

Stalin to prison

2017-05-19 05:10:03 UTC  

The bolsheviks robbed banks

2017-05-19 05:10:13 UTC  

Stalin was a worker, Mao too

2017-05-19 05:13:40 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/308950154222895104/314993996097126400/Calculatingrate.png

2017-05-19 05:13:58 UTC  

Stalin was only a worker for a short time in factory as a cobbler apprentice as a child

2017-05-19 05:14:28 UTC  

Otherwise he quickly found his way into politics and/or insurgent activities

2017-05-19 05:14:40 UTC  

He infiltrated factories working in them.

2017-05-19 05:14:57 UTC  

He who acts as one though he is not one

2017-05-19 05:15:19 UTC  

He didn't have an income from capital.

2017-05-19 05:15:32 UTC  

He is of class proletariat.

2017-05-19 05:16:04 UTC  

He WAS until he became an official in the revolutionary government

2017-05-19 05:16:18 UTC  

But he was not a mere laborer

2017-05-19 05:16:33 UTC  

@Deleted User Officials work for the class.

2017-05-19 05:19:27 UTC  
2017-05-19 05:20:43 UTC  

"I must say in all conscience, comrades, that I do
not deserve a good half of the flattering things that
have been said here about me. I am, it appears, a hero
of the October Revolution, the leader of the Communist
Party of the Soviet Union, the leader of the Communist
International, a legendary warrior-knight and all the
rest of it. That is absurd, comrades, and quite unneces-
sary exaggeration. It is the sort of thing that is usually
said at the graveside of a departed revolutionary. But
I have no intention of dying yet.
I must therefore give a true picture of what I was
formerly, and to whom I owe my present position in
our Party.
Comrade Arakel* said here that in the old days he
regarded himself as one of my teachers, and myself as
his pupil. That is perfectly true, comrades. I really
was, and still am, one of the pupils of the advanced
workers of the Tiflis railway workshops"

2017-05-19 05:21:00 UTC  
2017-05-19 05:21:09 UTC  

goodbye

2017-05-19 05:24:23 UTC  

>gripes about the social-democrats in the first few pages

2017-05-19 05:24:34 UTC  

Even Stalin hated them

2017-05-19 05:24:48 UTC  

Also I C E P I C K

2017-05-19 05:25:30 UTC  

@Deleted User Social-Democracy is a national-socialism in the first stage.

2017-05-19 05:26:07 UTC  

Has nothing to do with Marxism anymore.

2017-05-19 05:27:14 UTC  

That is a complete and utter untruth my friend

2017-05-19 05:27:37 UTC  

Social Democracy was one of the things National Socialists formed to oppose

2017-05-19 05:27:53 UTC  

In fact it was the very first movement Hitler was introduced to

2017-05-19 05:28:12 UTC  

That is what Marxist theory came to. At first it was an opposition but after Social-Democrats joined NatSoc

2017-05-19 05:28:18 UTC  

He even remarked it had strayed far from anything it ever could have been to begin with

2017-05-19 05:28:24 UTC  

And had taken the unions with it

2017-05-19 05:29:01 UTC  

Social Democrats may have *converted* but National Socialism and Social Democracy are two wildly different systems

2017-05-19 05:29:25 UTC  

If they were able to convert something is wrong there. Marxists do not convert.

2017-05-19 05:29:34 UTC  

They are logical, rational.