Message from @Blebleh

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2017-05-21 23:13:39 UTC  

So if we both read the same book, we understand it with equal depth and insight?

2017-05-21 23:14:17 UTC  

Unless we are clones raised in mirror worlds, this is never true.

2017-05-21 23:17:39 UTC  

public education can make tests and there could be assemblies with consensus about it; but about interpretations, there could be factions

2017-05-21 23:17:58 UTC  

and I think that giving a minority the authority because other minority think that they're best is the wrong way

2017-05-21 23:18:16 UTC  

wouldn't it be easier to have an authority

2017-05-21 23:18:19 UTC  

it's an imposition

2017-05-21 23:18:26 UTC  

How many different interpretations of '2 + 2 = 4' are there?

2017-05-21 23:18:42 UTC  

what if

2017-05-21 23:18:52 UTC  

teachers had like democratic elections

2017-05-21 23:19:04 UTC  

so if they don't work they can't preach to their tenure

2017-05-21 23:19:09 UTC  

in the decimal system this is true

2017-05-21 23:19:15 UTC  

and it should be taught as science

2017-05-21 23:19:21 UTC  

although not in a binary one

2017-05-21 23:19:31 UTC  

Consensus is a logical fallacy, appeal to popularity.

2017-05-21 23:19:56 UTC  

It is only sigificant if based in science.

2017-05-21 23:20:17 UTC  

anarchists unions try to discuss in assemblies and get into a consensus, convince who doesn't agree with them

2017-05-21 23:20:29 UTC  

What a waste of time.

2017-05-21 23:20:33 UTC  

this could take more time yes

2017-05-21 23:20:40 UTC  

but after it we don't have to do again the law

2017-05-21 23:20:44 UTC  

change the government, etc.

2017-05-21 23:20:54 UTC  

because we already agreed and learned from it

2017-05-21 23:21:12 UTC  

in other cases, there could be supermajorities

2017-05-21 23:21:35 UTC  

Assuming you made the correct discussion, which you cannot know because you care more about consensus than authoritative truths.

2017-05-21 23:21:36 UTC  

and in irreconciliable cases factions

2017-05-21 23:21:55 UTC  

no

2017-05-21 23:22:10 UTC  

scientifical truths doesn't depend on democracy

2017-05-21 23:22:24 UTC  

this is built on the platform in a pre-revolutionary phase

2017-05-21 23:22:51 UTC  

but after it, what people don't know if it's truth or not; what we have to agree

2017-05-21 23:22:58 UTC  

What kind of truth is not scientific?

2017-05-21 23:22:59 UTC  

this is other thing

2017-05-21 23:23:30 UTC  

in politics?

2017-05-21 23:23:44 UTC  

it depends a lot on the environment and the circumstances

2017-05-21 23:24:20 UTC  

we don't have laboratory conditions

2017-05-21 23:24:35 UTC  

I should rephrase, what kind of decision making should not be guided by science?

2017-05-21 23:25:28 UTC  

there could be some zones in the territory that would prefer to pay for having this thing or another one

2017-05-21 23:25:31 UTC  

for example

2017-05-21 23:25:44 UTC  

I agree it should be guided by science when possible

2017-05-21 23:25:58 UTC  

So you are saying, if we are 100% ignorant, which is not the case, but if we were, we should use consensus, but then once we have science why not abandon consensus in favour of science?

2017-05-21 23:27:25 UTC  

I agree when it's 1+1=2

2017-05-21 23:27:41 UTC  

What if others do not agree?

2017-05-21 23:27:47 UTC  

What if they are the majority?