i guess

what about starting firms

i feel like that's at least difficult without community banks/ loans unless you go crowdfunding or something

I can understand that, starting a sucessful business is hard enough even with a decent amount of investment capital

@not_matt in USSR under Stalin you could take loans for firms.

yeah thats my point

i cant tell when people are disagreeing with me tbh

were you backing me up there

whenever i get @'d i feel attacked initially

Also Stalin promoted loans to peasantry as a method to control peasantry.

Openly

Oy vey

@Deleted User He had to convenience many Marxist that loaning is a good strategy to get more control.

I mean, it is. At least, with the way societies tend to work

Loaning is inherently capitalistic

The loaner always seeks high returns

Charity on the other hand wouldn't

@Deleted User the USSR government didn't need money from peasantry. Only high degree of control.

High returns

Uncle Joe wouldn't charge interest.

I feel like I should be transparent here. I'm mostly here to see alternate viewpoints. I myself would say that I'm a capitalist. But I also think that it is extremely important to understand alternate views to your own. I'm not gonna try to force my opinions on anyone, though would be up to just talk about my views with anyone interested to gain mutual understanding.

I feel like a lot are in the same boat, or were. You are most welcome.

@Deleted User why /pol supported a candidate who's favorite daughter is into Judaism? It is beyond my understanding.

They say /pol/ is not person. No, it's a superorganism. The majority of pol are thoughtless robots. Nowadays full of reddit cancer.

@Deleted User didn't most alt-right support the same candidate as well?

Yes. It was all the Donald train. Most of the hype was build on his outlyer status. It started as a joke but then people identified with it, and see themselves in the success of such outlyer. The psychological profite of 4chan is quite overt.

@Deleted User what the situation was on StormFront. I thought most people there support Trump as well.

I haven't been on Stormfront for a decade, sorry.

I love it when people use "alt-right" while talking about WN, Natsoc, Fasc, or /pol/

None of these things are synonymous

Though there is sometimes cross talk

I went to one of his rallies in my city, I think the majority of trump's stuff was playing to a voterbase that was feeling increasingly disenchanted with the current political situation

Please, correct the record.

Like, specifically here his rally was covering NAFTA and the TPP, which were agreements that have had significant impact on this city in particular, as there had been many factories that shut down and moved across teh border, costing many people their jobs

Has he even done anything about either?

I believe there were talks about renegotiating NAFTA at some point, but I've honestly not heard anythign conclusive.

Though at this moment in time, I'm wishing that I just didn't register to vote this year. Because I was in a different county when the elections were on and didn't realize I could actually do absentee voting. And now jury duty might end up interfering with my plans to take a trip to Canada with my boyfriend

>my boyfriend

Hah! Gay

I mean, more bisexual. But it's not completely wrong

@Deleted User what the situation was where you've been? Most alt-right wanted Trump or not?