Message from @Trestkie

Discord ID: 318285001877880834


2017-05-28 07:04:45 UTC  

no

2017-05-28 07:04:46 UTC  

ok

2017-05-28 07:04:47 UTC  

fair

2017-05-28 07:05:32 UTC  

Y'know something that I think is dumb about the American school system? Like just one specific thing that's not the obvious ones like Common Core and No Child Left Behind?

2017-05-28 07:06:20 UTC  

How in US History courses during compulsory enducation they give the Founding Fathers this false sense of "They knew what they were doing", and portray them as a cohesive group

2017-05-28 07:06:26 UTC  

They weren't at all

2017-05-28 07:06:42 UTC  

They yelled at eachother during discussions over politics

2017-05-28 07:06:48 UTC  

us history courses in general are terrible at discussing the history of the nation

2017-05-28 07:06:57 UTC  

we're so wrapped up in propaganda its insane

2017-05-28 07:07:04 UTC  

the founding fathers myths are a prime example

2017-05-28 07:07:53 UTC  

Like, I went to college for a semester, before not returning because I have no idea what I even want a degree in. And my Freshmen Tutorial was on the Founding Fathers. And it was a cohesive course that went over how they actually were

2017-05-28 07:08:38 UTC  

Like how Geore Washington was a fairly indecisive general, or how Benjamin Franklin was a glaring hypocrate. And I said "Why do we lie to kids about these people?"

2017-05-28 07:09:00 UTC  

and the professor said it was about instilling a positive view in the minds of kids

2017-05-28 07:09:29 UTC  

ok god damn it i actually need to sleep

2017-05-28 07:09:32 UTC  

but i dont wanna

2017-05-28 07:09:32 UTC  

Meh, Unresticted Politics. I have read all of this copypasta on /pol/. I was expecting something original.

2017-05-28 07:09:34 UTC  

and I was just sitting there like "It's a history course, the point is to give them an accurate depiction of past events so they may understand past decisions and use them as references for their own"

2017-05-28 07:09:55 UTC  

@Deleted User Be the change you want to see

2017-05-28 07:10:24 UTC  

i love how johannes is a nazi trying to coerce diversity in the uncensored politics server

2017-05-28 07:10:54 UTC  

Oh that shithole has plenty of diversity, just want to add more gas to the fire to keep it interesting TBH

2017-05-28 07:10:57 UTC  

> the professor said it was about instilling a positive view in the minds of kids

2017-05-28 07:10:59 UTC  

lol

2017-05-28 07:11:11 UTC  

why is it called history if you don't teach them the cold hard truth ?

2017-05-28 07:11:46 UTC  

isn't that propaganda on its own rights

2017-05-28 07:11:58 UTC  

history as a learned subject is pretty goddamn malleable, which is how you get this mythical american exceptionalism stuff being taught as historical

2017-05-28 07:12:04 UTC  

Well I mean

2017-05-28 07:12:10 UTC  

the professor in question is also a lawyer

2017-05-28 07:12:23 UTC  

or is the subject of history in school education itself a form of propaganda ?

2017-05-28 07:12:33 UTC  

I think I might have had a point I was trying to make with that statement, but I'm so tired that it was lost on me the second I posted that

2017-05-28 07:12:43 UTC  

hahaha

2017-05-28 07:13:11 UTC  

@Trestkie i think any teaching of past events is going to be colored by a certain ideological lens through which the events are viewed

2017-05-28 07:13:55 UTC  

that's true

2017-05-28 07:14:03 UTC  

thus, as a taught subject, history is necessarily propaganda, you have to teach kids critical thinking alongside so they can sort out the nonsense for themselves

2017-05-28 07:14:21 UTC  

>philosophy major lecturing people about why learning philosophy is important

2017-05-28 07:14:26 UTC  

>i am a living, breathing meme

2017-05-28 07:14:51 UTC  

Hey, you wasted your time with a worthless degree too?

2017-05-28 07:15:06 UTC  

im currently in the midst of pursuing the worthless degree! 😄

2017-05-28 07:15:12 UTC  

well im getting 2 degrees

2017-05-28 07:15:18 UTC  

double major in economics and philosophy

2017-05-28 07:15:26 UTC  

That's not too bad.

2017-05-28 07:15:42 UTC  

They complement each other.