If exploitation exists anywhere within system, even the king can be subject to it. Only without exploitation in the system can you be said to be truly free from it.

But what do you really gain from that freedom? How does it make peoples' lives better?

fuck freedom

@Deleted User More progress is possible.

read up on ownness

Progress in what sense?

@Deleted User Technology, industry, production...

@Deleted User But it wasn't in the USSR, there were clear and highly seperated strata. The workers, the bosses, and the bureaucrats (CPSU)

@Aidan
Define fascism

That can all be just as easily accomplished by Fascist states.

people i dont like

jk

he said earlier that he was tho

V2s, Jets, Assault Rifles.

@Aidan Define fascism

@Deleted User Depends what you mean by strata. It was authoritarian. Whole society was mobilised towards Socialism. The economy was militarised, but the means of production was public. An army needs generals.

define communism

Me?

if you would

Communism = Classes are eliminated except for working class, property is cooperatively shared between the working class

I understand fascism as an authoritarian method of organizing society where everyone acts as a cog for the machine that is the state, for the good of the state.

If that definition is fucked up in some way go ahead and BTFO me I'm tired as shit

no classes are abolished entirely

@Deleted User Capitalism or private ownership suffocates progress. In the sense that many ideas are never allowed to be tested. There is alienation to the workers.

>Fascism
>authoritarianism

Fascism is an Authoritarian state that uses its authority to serve the interest of its people regardless of class.

What if I told you fascism isn't inherently authoritarian

private property as we understand it would be abolished as it would not be needed, though this is distinct from person property.

wooooooah

what

it entirely is

Sorry, i know it isnt necessarily authoritarian in theory.

What is so inherintly bad about private property?

It has historically been, but that doesnt mean it has to be.

it's a state it has to be authoritarian dinguses.

@Deleted User It causes exploitation. Please read Marx and Engels.

@Deleted User You're asking us to do your book report for you.

private property is not my property

but property given to me by the grace of law

a spook

How does owning land cause exploitation?