Message from @Mjold Böns
Discord ID: 331598647013670922
@Deleted User my point is that you cannot blame theories, like you cannot prove or disprove them
you can blame what people make of the theory
I didn't blame the theories though
I really think you're misinterpreting me
no, but you were talking about whether marxism was good enough "to work for all people, with different mindsets and endure over time", but this is not what a theory can do
sorry if I might misread you again
hmm
It's not to SATISFY all people but to affect all people so they can stay within the system.
If you have an ancom society and a fraction of that goes rogue and seizes everything because the theory didn't anticipated power-hungry people then the theory needs revision, which means it didn't work for all people (not satisfy them)
I don't see why would you disagree with that
Again my problem is that there is always a huge chunk of people that don't rework a theory
what you do when you say that ancom theory doesn't account for some part of reality, you say that it is not applicable to reality. It is the society wish wasn't able "to work for all people, with different mindsets and endure over time", not the theory. Now I see hoe these two kinda wash together with ancom, but this doesn't happen in fx USSR. People in russia used marxist theory to propose a system. It wasn't marxism that was implemented, since this doesn't really make much sense. I am also kinda afraid that we are talking past eachother, and this isn't really that important a topic since we probably agree that indeed theories should be reworked/expanded upon/whatever.
also, I don't think ancom has the problem you stated, but you shouldn't ask me about that. If you wanna know you should ask an ancom or better yet read The Conquest of Bread
it is also getting late, so I will leave soon
also, maybe it is more correct to say that USSR used Marxist-Leninist theory instead of just Marxist
the ancom was just an example
i bet if i used a capitalist example you'd be ok with that ;d
I am okay regardless, just wanted to point it out
also good night, thanks for talk
nite
hi
yo
where is chopin
my greatest ally
i demand to see him
Chopin is sleeping
It is already 12 in Australia
hie red power
where u from in aus
10:30 here
Chopin is, I'm from San-Francisco
oh
i'm going there next week
Bloody tourists incoming
yeah mate
@Deleted User where u from in aus man
are there any other aussies in this chat
Guy with boxes in the bottom of online list
But he is fascist
y is he in a lefty chat then