Message from @Mjold Böns

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2017-07-04 00:02:56 UTC  

I didn't blame the theories though

2017-07-04 00:03:11 UTC  

I really think you're misinterpreting me

2017-07-04 00:04:20 UTC  

no, but you were talking about whether marxism was good enough "to work for all people, with different mindsets and endure over time", but this is not what a theory can do

2017-07-04 00:04:36 UTC  

sorry if I might misread you again

2017-07-04 00:06:23 UTC  

hmm

2017-07-04 00:07:01 UTC  

It's not to SATISFY all people but to affect all people so they can stay within the system.
If you have an ancom society and a fraction of that goes rogue and seizes everything because the theory didn't anticipated power-hungry people then the theory needs revision, which means it didn't work for all people (not satisfy them)

2017-07-04 00:07:35 UTC  

I don't see why would you disagree with that

2017-07-04 00:08:19 UTC  

Again my problem is that there is always a huge chunk of people that don't rework a theory

2017-07-04 00:14:29 UTC  

what you do when you say that ancom theory doesn't account for some part of reality, you say that it is not applicable to reality. It is the society wish wasn't able "to work for all people, with different mindsets and endure over time", not the theory. Now I see hoe these two kinda wash together with ancom, but this doesn't happen in fx USSR. People in russia used marxist theory to propose a system. It wasn't marxism that was implemented, since this doesn't really make much sense. I am also kinda afraid that we are talking past eachother, and this isn't really that important a topic since we probably agree that indeed theories should be reworked/expanded upon/whatever.

2017-07-04 00:15:16 UTC  

also, I don't think ancom has the problem you stated, but you shouldn't ask me about that. If you wanna know you should ask an ancom or better yet read The Conquest of Bread

2017-07-04 00:15:55 UTC  

it is also getting late, so I will leave soon

2017-07-04 00:17:30 UTC  

also, maybe it is more correct to say that USSR used Marxist-Leninist theory instead of just Marxist

2017-07-04 00:22:26 UTC  

the ancom was just an example

2017-07-04 00:23:02 UTC  

i bet if i used a capitalist example you'd be ok with that ;d

2017-07-04 00:24:19 UTC  

I am okay regardless, just wanted to point it out

2017-07-04 00:27:23 UTC  

also good night, thanks for talk

2017-07-04 00:27:36 UTC  

nite

2017-07-04 00:54:34 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/308950154222895104/331598631931084801/Screenshot_20170630-194705.jpg

2017-07-04 00:54:38 UTC  

are memes allowed

2017-07-04 01:23:04 UTC  

hi

2017-07-04 01:35:08 UTC  

yo

2017-07-04 01:35:15 UTC  

where is chopin

2017-07-04 01:35:19 UTC  

my greatest ally

2017-07-04 01:35:23 UTC  

i demand to see him

2017-07-04 02:23:09 UTC  

Chopin is sleeping

2017-07-04 02:25:41 UTC  

It is already 12 in Australia

2017-07-04 02:27:53 UTC  

hie red power

2017-07-04 02:27:57 UTC  

where u from in aus

2017-07-04 02:30:40 UTC  

10:30 here

2017-07-04 02:31:37 UTC  

Chopin is, I'm from San-Francisco

2017-07-04 02:31:45 UTC  

oh

2017-07-04 02:31:59 UTC  

i'm going there next week

2017-07-04 02:32:37 UTC  

Bloody tourists incoming

2017-07-04 02:32:59 UTC  

yeah mate

2017-07-04 02:33:19 UTC  

@Deleted User where u from in aus man

2017-07-04 02:33:44 UTC  

are there any other aussies in this chat

2017-07-04 02:35:14 UTC  

Guy with boxes in the bottom of online list

2017-07-04 02:35:23 UTC  

But he is fascist

2017-07-04 02:36:40 UTC  

y is he in a lefty chat then

2017-07-04 02:37:13 UTC  

Because we lack autism.

2017-07-04 02:37:28 UTC  

wat