Message from @Timo)))
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I don't think a lot of countries are truly capitalistic, sampuka
how do you define capitalism then? because I can't point to a non-capitalist country
ehm maybe north korea
and somalia hardly has a system
Most of what we have now is corporatism, I'm sure you'd agree
Singapore is a good example
very economically free
@Timo))) That's why Communists seek out to promote class consciousness, because even though that's an issue of class society and capitalism, they don't blame it on those two things.
I'd say corporatism is very much capitalism
very rich for a small country
Two different thing to me, that's why i'm not happy with what we currently have
there's no difference between capitalism and corporatism
size of the vountry hardly matters
If it was I should be happy
corporatism naturally occurs from capitalism
like monopolies
it's not that there's no difference between capitalism and corporatism, but that it's just an ill comparison
capitalism is a mode of production
not if the government can't give certain countries the upper hand
and corporatism is hardly well-defined anywhere
the socialists see this right, it's just the answer I'm not happy with from them
I don't follow, I've never learned what corporatism is
care to define it for me because I've never heard one?
When the government bails out corporations with our money
corporatism seems to be what occurs between capitalist and political forces, and the policies that results from that inter-mingling.
but the state is very much a part of capitalsm
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When you need to be a part of some union before you can even have your business
not at all
yes it is
libertarianism is small government, more freedom and capitalism
Not even necessarily capitalism.
no, libertarianism is capitalism with small state
e have big government right now
The state is an apparatus of a ruling class.
Right now it is yes
In Ancient Rome, the senate was filled with the Patricians.
bet they'd buy all sorts of goodies with the government there
saying that libertarianism wants "more capitlism" (whateer that means) is ill-argued
they just want capitslism with less state