class struggle is very obvious in most 3rd world countries

Working class is mostly mad because of the welfare state and in my country the refugees sucking up their money

I don't think a lot of countries are truly capitalistic, sampuka

how do you define capitalism then? because I can't point to a non-capitalist country

ehm maybe north korea

and somalia hardly has a system

Most of what we have now is corporatism, I'm sure you'd agree

Singapore is a good example

very economically free

@Timo))) That's why Communists seek out to promote class consciousness, because even though that's an issue of class society and capitalism, they don't blame it on those two things.

I'd say corporatism is very much capitalism

very rich for a small country

Two different thing to me, that's why i'm not happy with what we currently have

there's no difference between capitalism and corporatism

size of the vountry hardly matters

If it was I should be happy

corporatism naturally occurs from capitalism

like monopolies

it's not that there's no difference between capitalism and corporatism, but that it's just an ill comparison

capitalism is a mode of production

not if the government can't give certain countries the upper hand

and corporatism is hardly well-defined anywhere

hardly defined but definitely what we have now

the socialists see this right, it's just the answer I'm not happy with from them

I don't follow, I've never learned what corporatism is

care to define it for me because I've never heard one?

When the government bails out corporations with our money

corporatism seems to be what occurs between capitalist and political forces, and the policies that results from that inter-mingling.

but the state is very much a part of capitalsm

^

When you need to be a part of some union before you can even have your business

not at all

yes it is

libertarianism is small government, more freedom and capitalism

Not even necessarily capitalism.

no, libertarianism is capitalism with small state

e have big government right now

The state is an apparatus of a ruling class.

Right now it is yes

In Ancient Rome, the senate was filled with the Patricians.

bet they'd buy all sorts of goodies with the government there