so in other works capitalism will wake people up

we've been waiting for a century

Yeah but which system instead?

socialism and then an ancom society

depends on what people get convinced by

in the 20th century it was mainly ML, but it might be something else next time

You have to reward successful human, thats just our being. If there isn't private property, they can't see a reason to continue working hard

you don't mean the same by "private property" as a socialist

also the argument is usually that it is the market that ensures incentive

we can force people to do work

easy

t. Stalin

what's wrong with stalin?

it was a bad time tbh

if we do it today we won't have those problems

a lot, but yeah it was a bad time

Well every system will fail sooner or later

There isnt the perfect

all systems were cruel at that period

it isn't perfect but it's by far the best, ancom

honestly capitslism wasn't that bad at that time because there were labor shortage

or was that earlier

I honestly don't know

in regards to the every system will fall argument: One can argue that every society until now has fallen due to class, and that a classless society won't fall, at least the same way

though I'm not sure I subscribe to this

At the moment you can get rich and succesful by working hard. At least in europe. People who failed in school or similar wont accept that for sure. But the capitalism didn't fail yet

capitalism obviously haven't failed since we still have it

also, a lot of people cant get rich and succesful even by working hard

I mean fail like people freak out

hmm, not atm but that will probably come back again

if you consider the worldwide-aspect youre right

I think it'll happen everywhere again like it did

So what is your plan?

What do you want to change and how?

I'm not decided, and it also depends on what there is support for

I generally don't mind much what tendency it will be

I wouldn't mind most things from ancom to market socialist to marxist leninist

I will however be pretty cautious with the latter though

I am also generally more interested in understanding these than trying to implement them right now

since you cant do the latter

I don't have to decide now, people don't want off with capitlism