lets organize

there is not enough support to do much

fx general strikes cannot happen today

in the west

so what's the best strategy to stop capitalism

if people want it; revolution

how will we wake the people up

I don't say capitalism is bad at all. It's the way they practise it.

that is very hard

capitalism will always create inequalities

we have to stop it

And after you stopped it? What then?

but if Marx was right capitalism will become worse and worse and the class-struggle will become clearer and clearer

inequality is not a very good reason for revolution imo

so we wait for capitalism to get worse? that doesn't sound like a good idea

so in other works capitalism will wake people up

we've been waiting for a century

Yeah but which system instead?

socialism and then an ancom society

depends on what people get convinced by

in the 20th century it was mainly ML, but it might be something else next time

You have to reward successful human, thats just our being. If there isn't private property, they can't see a reason to continue working hard

you don't mean the same by "private property" as a socialist

also the argument is usually that it is the market that ensures incentive

we can force people to do work

easy

t. Stalin

what's wrong with stalin?

it was a bad time tbh

if we do it today we won't have those problems

a lot, but yeah it was a bad time

Well every system will fail sooner or later

There isnt the perfect

all systems were cruel at that period

it isn't perfect but it's by far the best, ancom

honestly capitslism wasn't that bad at that time because there were labor shortage

or was that earlier

I honestly don't know

in regards to the every system will fall argument: One can argue that every society until now has fallen due to class, and that a classless society won't fall, at least the same way

though I'm not sure I subscribe to this

At the moment you can get rich and succesful by working hard. At least in europe. People who failed in school or similar wont accept that for sure. But the capitalism didn't fail yet