Message from @Horse Shmeat

Discord ID: 337013626390970369


2017-07-18 23:28:21 UTC  

If a man is starving

2017-07-18 23:28:32 UTC  

Can he walk into a store room without a voucher and receive aid?

2017-07-18 23:28:39 UTC  

Despite not working?

2017-07-18 23:28:52 UTC  

His needs would be met throught distribution

2017-07-18 23:29:00 UTC  

food is not a commoditie

2017-07-18 23:29:05 UTC  

you need it to survive

2017-07-18 23:29:12 UTC  

>you don't need food to survive

2017-07-18 23:29:24 UTC  

my sides

2017-07-18 23:29:30 UTC  

that was an error

2017-07-18 23:29:33 UTC  

let me edit it

2017-07-18 23:29:41 UTC  

I tried to say you need it to survive

2017-07-18 23:29:46 UTC  

it is not a commoditie

2017-07-18 23:29:51 UTC  

@Horse Shmeat So if anything that is used to make money and is not owned by the state is private property, then woulden't you have to shut down all farms and factories?

2017-07-18 23:29:51 UTC  

a teddy bear is a commoditie

2017-07-18 23:29:54 UTC  

do you need it to survive

2017-07-18 23:30:37 UTC  

@Deleted User because the workers would take control

2017-07-18 23:30:41 UTC  

and own it together

2017-07-18 23:31:17 UTC  

the community would own the factories and buildings

2017-07-18 23:31:19 UTC  

Then they would have to have someone who would recieve the vouchers and give them to the workers.

2017-07-18 23:31:36 UTC  

Who would be producing and distrubiting them if there is no central power to do so?

2017-07-18 23:31:49 UTC  

the people who live in the community

2017-07-18 23:33:29 UTC  

How would they be able to produce them items that they need, to be able to build the vehicles, trade routes, and factories along with paper to do so, while also being able to pay workers?

2017-07-18 23:33:35 UTC  

Wait a second

2017-07-18 23:33:39 UTC  

No one country can do that unless it is a super power.

2017-07-18 23:33:43 UTC  

by the workers making items

2017-07-18 23:33:46 UTC  

Or the world is completely stateless.

2017-07-18 23:33:49 UTC  

You still need to tell me if the man with no vouchers gets the food he needs

2017-07-18 23:33:51 UTC  

They would have to trade.

2017-07-18 23:33:57 UTC  

He does Johannes

2017-07-18 23:34:01 UTC  

he needs food to live

2017-07-18 23:34:06 UTC  

so he gets what he needs to live

2017-07-18 23:34:15 UTC  

commodities are things you don't need to survive

2017-07-18 23:34:21 UTC  

I said this 100 times already

2017-07-18 23:34:23 UTC  

Commodities are anything you can trade

2017-07-18 23:34:29 UTC  

Including water and food

2017-07-18 23:34:32 UTC  

What are you fuckers arguing about?

2017-07-18 23:34:36 UTC  

Vouchers then only count for luxury goods

2017-07-18 23:34:38 UTC  

@Stoichia21 Anarchist shit.

2017-07-18 23:34:39 UTC  

Which makes sense

2017-07-18 23:34:42 UTC  

mhm

2017-07-18 23:34:47 UTC  

@Stoichia21 You don't need food to survive :^)