do you make money with it?

no

it's personal property

Anyway so trade goods are banned but personal property isn't
Shit what did I want to ask way back in the convo

Can you obtain commodities without vouchers?

if you find them or don't steal them

Who would throw away a voucher?

@Horse Shmeat Wait, so anything that is used to make money is private property if not owned by the state or it's equivalent?

And that didn't answer my question

If a man is starving

Can he walk into a store room without a voucher and receive aid?

Despite not working?

His needs would be met throught distribution

food is not a commoditie

you need it to survive

>you don't need food to survive

my sides

that was an error

let me edit it

I tried to say you need it to survive

it is not a commoditie

@Horse Shmeat So if anything that is used to make money and is not owned by the state is private property, then woulden't you have to shut down all farms and factories?

a teddy bear is a commoditie

do you need it to survive

@Deleted User because the workers would take control

and own it together

the community would own the factories and buildings

Then they would have to have someone who would recieve the vouchers and give them to the workers.

Who would be producing and distrubiting them if there is no central power to do so?

the people who live in the community

How would they be able to produce them items that they need, to be able to build the vehicles, trade routes, and factories along with paper to do so, while also being able to pay workers?

Wait a second

No one country can do that unless it is a super power.

by the workers making items

Or the world is completely stateless.

You still need to tell me if the man with no vouchers gets the food he needs

They would have to trade.

He does Johannes

he needs food to live

so he gets what he needs to live

commodities are things you don't need to survive