Message from @Deleted User

Discord ID: 337012751559819264


2017-07-18 23:25:03 UTC  

Private property has a different definiton than the world definition

2017-07-18 23:25:03 UTC  

AKA private property you trade

2017-07-18 23:25:03 UTC  

So private property does exist?

2017-07-18 23:25:25 UTC  

different things have different definitions in different contexts

2017-07-18 23:25:48 UTC  

No you're using a connotative meaning for private property

2017-07-18 23:25:58 UTC  

because we are talking politics

2017-07-18 23:26:13 UTC  

not room privacy

2017-07-18 23:26:18 UTC  

@Horse Shmeat So the tooth brush that you used for yourself and only yourself is by definition private property?

2017-07-18 23:26:27 UTC  

No, it's personal property

2017-07-18 23:26:31 UTC  

do you rent out your brush?

2017-07-18 23:26:34 UTC  

Private means the same no matter what

2017-07-18 23:26:37 UTC  

do you make money with it?

2017-07-18 23:26:38 UTC  

no

2017-07-18 23:26:42 UTC  

it's personal property

2017-07-18 23:27:21 UTC  

Anyway so trade goods are banned but personal property isn't
Shit what did I want to ask way back in the convo

2017-07-18 23:27:50 UTC  

Can you obtain commodities without vouchers?

2017-07-18 23:28:00 UTC  

if you find them or don't steal them

2017-07-18 23:28:10 UTC  

Who would throw away a voucher?

2017-07-18 23:28:13 UTC  

@Horse Shmeat Wait, so anything that is used to make money is private property if not owned by the state or it's equivalent?

2017-07-18 23:28:18 UTC  

And that didn't answer my question

2017-07-18 23:28:21 UTC  

If a man is starving

2017-07-18 23:28:32 UTC  

Can he walk into a store room without a voucher and receive aid?

2017-07-18 23:28:39 UTC  

Despite not working?

2017-07-18 23:28:52 UTC  

His needs would be met throught distribution

2017-07-18 23:29:00 UTC  

food is not a commoditie

2017-07-18 23:29:05 UTC  

you need it to survive

2017-07-18 23:29:12 UTC  

>you don't need food to survive

2017-07-18 23:29:24 UTC  

my sides

2017-07-18 23:29:30 UTC  

that was an error

2017-07-18 23:29:33 UTC  

let me edit it

2017-07-18 23:29:41 UTC  

I tried to say you need it to survive

2017-07-18 23:29:46 UTC  

it is not a commoditie

2017-07-18 23:29:51 UTC  

@Horse Shmeat So if anything that is used to make money and is not owned by the state is private property, then woulden't you have to shut down all farms and factories?

2017-07-18 23:29:51 UTC  

a teddy bear is a commoditie

2017-07-18 23:29:54 UTC  

do you need it to survive

2017-07-18 23:30:37 UTC  

@Deleted User because the workers would take control

2017-07-18 23:30:41 UTC  

and own it together

2017-07-18 23:31:17 UTC  

the community would own the factories and buildings

2017-07-18 23:31:19 UTC  

Then they would have to have someone who would recieve the vouchers and give them to the workers.

2017-07-18 23:31:36 UTC  

Who would be producing and distrubiting them if there is no central power to do so?

2017-07-18 23:31:49 UTC  

the people who live in the community