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and convinced many brownshirts to join his new "black front" which was a national socialist resistance group against the fake national """"""""socialist""""""" hitler
>/pol/ >leftwing
You said "third position" but you're right, /pol/tards aren't even 3rd position
He eventually fled to canada
Not sure what else I can say about Strasser except that he was a national syndicalist, a confederalist, a market socialist, a nationalist, and a heroic revolutionary against Hitlers fake "national socialism". I'd also recommend you check out this video, skip to 6:15 for the reference to the national revolutionary Otto Strasser https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cjsizk7fucw&t=1169s
I need to make a webm of this to show the BO of /leftypol/ that Strasserists shouldn't be banned tbh
I'm drunk but his national struggle against capitalism brings a tear to my eye
>dies as a footnote of history
>claims theories work though never put into practice
doesn't make him a bad man tho : (
he did a lot to fight for liberation
@Dusseldorf#2806 What you think of Marxism? Marxism thinks you are idealist.
I know. But Lenin had workable theory. Putting theory into practice is the fundamental measure of good politics.
@Firefly I've read Marx and I take a lot of influences from Marx but I don't agree with his internationalism
Internationalism?
@Dusseldorf#2806 There are national options too. Both national and International.
Is of combination.
@Deleted User He very well could have put it into practice had he been able to keep hitler out of power. With that said, Gaddafi's and Tito's systems were VERY simlar to Strasserism
They were pretty much Strasserism with Libyan and Yugo characteristics
Is very flexible combination.
History is the perfect measure of theory. Hypothetical and 'could haves' are the refuge of bad theoreticians.
Picking fights is inherent to the shortcomings of his ideas.
@Deleted User Well like I said, Tito kind of emulated it even if it wasn't called "Strasserism" and Gaddafi's system is practically a carbon copy of Strasserism
Not much you got from Marxism it seems.
Gaddafi existed because he appealed to the uses of America. That is a separate dynamic. If you want to be a professional lapdog, you will have limited success.
I agree with his ideas of class war, and his criticisms of capital, I also agree with the labor theory of value @Firefly
But what you lack it being able to put it into practice.
Did you read Kapital?
@Deleted User Bullshit, he got killed by the west because he was willing to stand up to them
@Firefly I've read the manifesto but not Kapital
@Revolutionary Nationalist The interests of America changed. And yes, he was killed because he only stood up to them in the end. In the other times, he was unknowingly supporting their interests.
Without capital you shall not agree on labor theory as you don't know it.
Is of complicated.
Only anti-imperialism matters.
@Deleted User So you disagree with him because he didn't stand up to them soon enough. lmao.
I don't understand. Of course a Marxist is supposed to fight against imperialism. And he didn't.
@Deleted User He absolutely did. Otherwise he wouldn't be dead.
So why didn't he die sooner?
Because he wasn't planning on removing Libya from the petro dollar before that. You're essentially engaging in a logical fallacy. It's like saying "why weren't you a socialist as a baby"
He also worked heavily with Tito when he was younger
Not really. You are saying that Gaddafi is a good example. Even though he wasn't for the longest time.