Message from @Firefly

Discord ID: 337113133095059456


2017-07-19 06:00:55 UTC  

Is of ok. You shall tell us more tbh

2017-07-19 06:01:20 UTC  

Alright comrade, I shall tell you more of this misunderstood socialist hero

2017-07-19 06:01:36 UTC  

Anyway, he is widely misunderstood because he was a member of the nazi party originally

2017-07-19 06:01:52 UTC  

the wikipedia article about him literally says he just "hated jews"

2017-07-19 06:02:00 UTC  

when infact that's not true

2017-07-19 06:02:08 UTC  

He worked with many Jews to try to kill Hitler

2017-07-19 06:02:28 UTC  

In 1940 the "Jewish Question" was a big thing in Germany

2017-07-19 06:02:34 UTC  

He advocated 3 solutions

2017-07-19 06:02:49 UTC  

1. to make them a "national minority" with their own representation in Germany

2017-07-19 06:03:31 UTC  

Couldn't remember it all

2017-07-19 06:03:36 UTC  

anyway here's a good quote

2017-07-19 06:03:53 UTC  

>Unlike with Hitler's regime, Otto Strasser supported the right for German Jews to do one of the
following: 1) They may stay within the greater nation of Germans but be marked as foreigners
and thus only enjoy the rights of such. 2) They may be deemed national minorities and given
their own autonomous states within a federal Germany where they will be able to exercise a
degree of autonomy over their own people. 3.) They may repudiate both their Jewish religion and
identity and assimilate into the German nation. Otto Strasser made it clear it should be up to each
individual Jew what he or she wishes to do.

2017-07-19 06:03:54 UTC  

Lol

2017-07-19 06:03:59 UTC  

Yeah I'm drunk

2017-07-19 06:04:29 UTC  

anyway he recognized that people are different but he wasn't a discriminatory man

2017-07-19 06:04:38 UTC  

Which leftwing 3rd position websites you ever been to?

2017-07-19 06:05:07 UTC  

quite a few, debate fascism sub on plebbit, /pol/, iron march, probably more

2017-07-19 06:06:18 UTC  

Anyway, Strasser tried on multiple occasions to kill Hitler, He had to flee to Czechoslovakia in the 30s

2017-07-19 06:06:26 UTC  

Where he did a radio broadcast against Hitler

2017-07-19 06:06:56 UTC  

and convinced many brownshirts to join his new "black front" which was a national socialist resistance group against the fake national """"""""socialist""""""" hitler

2017-07-19 06:07:14 UTC  

>/pol/ >leftwing

2017-07-19 06:07:52 UTC  

You said "third position" but you're right, /pol/tards aren't even 3rd position

2017-07-19 06:09:07 UTC  

He eventually fled to canada

2017-07-19 06:11:40 UTC  

Not sure what else I can say about Strasser except that he was a national syndicalist, a confederalist, a market socialist, a nationalist, and a heroic revolutionary against Hitlers fake "national socialism". I'd also recommend you check out this video, skip to 6:15 for the reference to the national revolutionary Otto Strasser https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cjsizk7fucw&t=1169s

2017-07-19 06:12:05 UTC  

I need to make a webm of this to show the BO of /leftypol/ that Strasserists shouldn't be banned tbh

2017-07-19 06:13:24 UTC  

I'm drunk but his national struggle against capitalism brings a tear to my eye

2017-07-19 06:14:03 UTC  

>dies as a footnote of history
>claims theories work though never put into practice

2017-07-19 06:14:26 UTC  

doesn't make him a bad man tho : (

2017-07-19 06:14:32 UTC  

he did a lot to fight for liberation

2017-07-19 06:14:47 UTC  

@Dusseldorf#2806 What you think of Marxism? Marxism thinks you are idealist.

2017-07-19 06:15:27 UTC  

I know. But Lenin had workable theory. Putting theory into practice is the fundamental measure of good politics.

2017-07-19 06:15:30 UTC  

@Firefly I've read Marx and I take a lot of influences from Marx but I don't agree with his internationalism

2017-07-19 06:15:48 UTC  

Internationalism?

2017-07-19 06:16:08 UTC  

@Dusseldorf#2806 There are national options too. Both national and International.

2017-07-19 06:16:13 UTC  

Is of combination.

2017-07-19 06:16:17 UTC  

@Deleted User He very well could have put it into practice had he been able to keep hitler out of power. With that said, Gaddafi's and Tito's systems were VERY simlar to Strasserism

2017-07-19 06:16:34 UTC  

They were pretty much Strasserism with Libyan and Yugo characteristics

2017-07-19 06:16:39 UTC  

Is very flexible combination.

2017-07-19 06:17:13 UTC  

History is the perfect measure of theory. Hypothetical and 'could haves' are the refuge of bad theoreticians.

2017-07-19 06:17:44 UTC  

For example, Hitler picked a fight he couldn't win. It reflects badly on his ideology.

2017-07-19 06:18:07 UTC  

Picking fights is inherent to the shortcomings of his ideas.