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@Deleted User Well like I said, Tito kind of emulated it even if it wasn't called "Strasserism" and Gaddafi's system is practically a carbon copy of Strasserism
Not much you got from Marxism it seems.
Gaddafi existed because he appealed to the uses of America. That is a separate dynamic. If you want to be a professional lapdog, you will have limited success.
I agree with his ideas of class war, and his criticisms of capital, I also agree with the labor theory of value @Firefly
But what you lack it being able to put it into practice.
Did you read Kapital?
@Deleted User Bullshit, he got killed by the west because he was willing to stand up to them
@Firefly I've read the manifesto but not Kapital
@Revolutionary Nationalist The interests of America changed. And yes, he was killed because he only stood up to them in the end. In the other times, he was unknowingly supporting their interests.
Without capital you shall not agree on labor theory as you don't know it.
Is of complicated.
Only anti-imperialism matters.
@Deleted User So you disagree with him because he didn't stand up to them soon enough. lmao.
I don't understand. Of course a Marxist is supposed to fight against imperialism. And he didn't.
@Deleted User He absolutely did. Otherwise he wouldn't be dead.
So why didn't he die sooner?
Because he wasn't planning on removing Libya from the petro dollar before that. You're essentially engaging in a logical fallacy. It's like saying "why weren't you a socialist as a baby"
He also worked heavily with Tito when he was younger
Not really. You are saying that Gaddafi is a good example. Even though he wasn't for the longest time.
Not to mention, he also supported the Socialist IRA
A good example, not only has a long history of anti-imperialism, but also survives because they understand the practical application of theory.
Like Stalin.
What I'm describing is literally anti-imperialism
Where? Gaddafi only cares about Gaddafi.
Or 'Libya'.
He heavily increased literacy, housing and the overall living standards in Libya. He also had democracy on a local level.
I agree.
People literally lived longer in Libya than they did in the states
you can't say he didn't care about his people
I didn't. I said he didn't fight imperialism.
This is global.
He did when he tried to remove Libya from the petro dollar and get all of Africa on a gold backed currency. He was essentially trying to liberate the entire african continent from American imperialism
How many revolutions outside of Libya did Gaddafi support?
With success.
He failed because of trying to establish a currency system. Everybody knows the modern currencies have to be the end of all currency. Nothing can replace them and they must be dismantled systematically and permanently. Any currency that takes its place will eventually become imperialistic in its nature.
The Denar was a revolution all of it's own. I can't name them all off the top of my head but I can say with absolute certainty that he supported the IRA along with other revolutions. You're essentially saying "lol if a revolution doesn't win, it's not socialist"
tfw you miss the enigmatic Gaddafi, if just because he represents an older terror in the news than ISIS
It's not socialist because of his capitalist intentions.
No I am saying that practice is important. You have to walk the walk. Theory must meet practice otherwise it is unscientific. Gaddafi was all talk and thus useful to the imperialists.
If he was useful why did they kill him?
Gaddafi was a crazy scumbag and that's pretty much all there was to him during my lifetime.