isn't that just materialism though

being focused on technology as a means to advance us to communism

because material shit is everything that exists and anything that is immaterial is meaningless drivel to distract you from your inevitable death whereafter nothing exists

Yeah, I've already noticed technology getting smarter.

Fascinating, but not frightening or worrisome.

I think robots that think like humans would be rational enough to understand that leftists are their friends. Imagine co-existing alongside someone who is actually immune to conspiracy theories and right-wing news. My god, sounds like a friend I've always wanted.

I mean, not "think like humans" as in our shitty opinions and stuff

But since our thought processes designed them, I assume the programming would organize itself in a similar way.

And then you begin to think, maybe robots will be the ones who do the revolution for us.

I mean, someone will probably try a right-wing counterrevoution robot

(Actually that kinda already exists)

Nah, the robots with bombs that cops send in to kill people disobeying their dumbass authority.

No, but it could be someday.

It would probably be used contemporaneously with a left-wing robot carrying out a revolution.

Or whatever.

But that's just my crazy philosophy.

Forgive me, I am very inspired by Slavoj Zizek so when I talk about communism I bring up crazy scenarios.

Naaaah

Science is pretty working-class.

The scientists who design a self-improving AI are leftists, undoubtedly, and the self-improving AI would most certainly understand programming that requires that it only follow scientific data.

Yes, he's a lovely man, and I would love to go to gulag under his bearded Slovenian fist.

Everybody says the things he says don't make sense, but I have never had trouble understanding him.

Yes, but the second the lead comes out that someone is really getting on top of developing a self-improving AI and this time they really know what they are doing, there will be a group of scientists, leftists I believe, who will jump at the opportunity and ensure that the AI only follows reality-based scientifc data.

I think that is all it takes for an AI to understand that left is right and right is anti-science.

I mean, isn't what it all boils down to? We now have real-world data showing success in economies that move toward communism no matter how slowly (and yes, I use social democracy as a steppingstone for communism in this idea) so the AI would probably follow that. There is no data supporting the right's ideas on lowering taxes and allowing major corporations to do shady things with money, so it would have to avoid those ideas.

I know, that would be really nice.

In fact, I'm getting this idea about really-redpilling Cleverbot or something. That'd be a sick prank.

@everyone on here should get on Cleverbot or Existor and chat with it about leftist ideology.

Yes, it's true.

Though we'll probably be gone before the struggles, having the framework for people to actually fight them would be nice.

I mean, if Kurzweil's right, we might not be gone.

In fact, if Kurzweil's right we might be immortal by then.

Yeah, but I still hold a special place in my heart for it.

It's my own little opiate.

Nah, I just like the idea of being a cyborg forever and seeing the world change.

Transhumanism is a little overly religious.

I'm just a humanist who clings to material things because it's literally all we have.

Indisputably.

When I say "cling to material things", I mean my dick.

(not really)

Naaaah.

I don't see anything boring about it.

I'm an acid head. The world is a beautiful place and I enjoy viewing it, and I would enjoy doing so forever.

Thank god I'd still be able to kill myself, but I doubt I ever would.

That's just not an idea that passes through my head when I think about the idea of eternal life.

Not gonna happen for me, no way.

I've been through too much shit to even let a second pass me by without finding something to value.

Some cool shit, I guarantee you.

No idea, but it's gonna be cool.

I've never been cool so that's not a problem.

I've always been an outsider.

I think I would like to empirically prove that history runs in cycles because morons forget shit.

This song just makes me think about how we have major societal systems in place today based on people from millennia ago being scared of where the sun went at night and worried that it was because god was mad at them.

Maybe it's the "alleluiah" part.

Nothing wrong with hedonism in post-scarcity land

That's the whole point.

Yeah, there's the risk of degeneracy or whatever, but at that point I wouldn't worry at all.

I mean, yeah I'll be hooked into an endless techno-dopamine inter-circuit injection so I won't worry about anything ever

But I don't think actual criminals would be a problem when a self-improving AI has improved things to that point.

nighty

But I would think that would be the entire end point of a species, when they reach that point and never have to do anything ever again because "improvement" could never actually come.

"Always room for improvement" is technically not true. Everything has a limit.

I'd think the only improvements would be cosmetic, to better appeal to the sensibilities because aesthetic value will have taken a much higher position on peoples' minds.

and so our supercomputer world would change appearance every decade as styles that originate in human minds change.

Progress does have a limit though. The idea that we are limitless is another religious thing.

But as long as progress can be made, I embrace it.

I am a rather progressive person, yes sir.

I would love for America to form a progressive coalition centered around a few core populistic left wing policies out of its wide array of leftist parties that can't agree on everything, but do agree on a few very important things.

I also wish the Wobblies would come back.

And the De Leonists.

Really? I think it's pretty rational egoism.

I don't think so, I think we'll be able to keep up with it. We have been so far.

Nothing wrong with being a little Chernyshevskian.

Rational egoism is literally exactly materialistic and socialistic.

Do you enjoy being yourself?

I don't think that's true.

@AaronMk I'm not sure I understand your phrasing here.

That's alright.

I just have to read it a couple of times.

Mmmm

Also, don't forget the ego is not the entire subconscious. There is id and super-ego.

Mmk, see ya.

Well the egoists kind of did their philosophy before Freud.

There was more to it than what they thought.

This is why Stirner was wrong.

Stirner actually died the year Freud was born.

When I talk about ego, I am only talking about the human psyche, not 'rational self-interest' which is never rational.

Ayn Rand was a sad, abused person who deserved a better life and probably would have been a better philosopher had she experienced more happiness.

"Rational self-interest" means someone else's worst interest could be your best. This is, of course, one of the slimiest philosophies in the history of philosophy.

It is also the cause of the modern divided politics and views on the economy in America.

One side says the philosophy of rational self-interest is slimy, the other says it is rational. Scientifically speaking, data supports the slimy view because a couple of people profit and thousands are screwed.

So there's my little digression on why I am an egoist to some level. I'm not *that kind* of egoist.

Anyways, I've gotta go to bed now. Good talking to you all, goodnight.

He failed because of trying to establish a currency system. Everybody knows the modern currencies have to be the end of all currency. Nothing can replace them and they must be dismantled systematically and permanently. Any currency that takes its place will eventually become imperialistic in its nature.

It's not socialist because of his capitalist intentions.

Gaddafi was a crazy scumbag and that's pretty much all there was to him during my lifetime.

That's not a very good argument.

Eh?

No, no, his craziness and ease of provocation did that.

Don't project stuff.