really makes you think

>founded by james conolly

He fought along side non-socialists in the Easter Rising though

The Socialist who would destroy, root and branch, the whole brutally materialistic system of civilisation, which like the English language we have adopted as our own, is, I hold, a far more deadly foe to English rule and tutelage, than the superficial thinker who imagines it possible to reconcile Irish freedom with those insidious but disastrous forms of economic subjection – landlord tyranny, capitalist fraud and unclean usury; baneful fruits of the Norman Conquest, the unholy trinity, of which Strongbow and Diarmuid MacMurchadha – Norman thief and Irish traitor – were the fitting precursors and apostles.

If you remove the English army to-morrow and hoist the green flag over Dublin Castle, unless you set about the organisation of the Socialist Republic your efforts would be in vain.

there is absolutely no fucking doubt he was a socialist

Look at Fianna Fáil

The word socialist has been used very liberally before the cold war

yes, not all of the IRA was socialist, but Connolly was definitely a socialist

think of NatSoc and Ba'athist "Arab Socialism"

Easter Rising he didn't fight for a socialist cause

Ba'athism was during the Cold War

sects of Ba'athism were socialist, Natsoc was only in name though

Founded before it

It was more a "get the fuck out, UK" cause

gained power after it though

and their ideology substantially changed

anyways, it doesn't matter, scientific socialists have supported national liberation since Marx and beyond

This irish party never gained power

what matter does this make

I meant Ba'athism

i know

you only have to read up on Marx on the question of Irish liberation

well, which branch of Ba'athism matters, I guess

Look up Patrick Pearse

Historical context gives it the modern significance and nuance.

The whole thring was called Arab Socialism by its members and outsiders

Connolly fought along side Patrick

Just as Conolly called his party Socialist

I'm not saying he wasnt a socialist

but im saying name doesnt necessarily matter

yes, they fought together, but Connolly was obviously a socialist in what he wrote and what he supported

you can fight together for a cause and not agree with everything your bedfellows support

When fighting in the Easter rising he didn't fight for a socialist cause

I thought you meant what he fought for, I apologise

he was a republican and a socialist

he fought for an independent Irish Republic, but he wanted it to be socialist as well

similar to other anti-colonial projects, you have a lot of people and groups working together who normally wouldn't

I think the Kuomintang and the Chinese Communist Party also worked together for a bit

^^^

I WAS ABOUT TO SAY THAT

They were originally in the same party