Message from @Deleted User

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2017-07-30 12:57:46 UTC  

fk this is deep

2017-07-30 12:58:14 UTC  

You can recursively go further and further down the "proof" that something real is more valuable than something fake, but eventually you hit a point where you can't give any more objective value to something

2017-07-30 12:58:37 UTC  

Does a cat question it's own realness?

2017-07-30 12:58:55 UTC  

I think your prison is your own fear and intellect.

2017-07-30 12:59:48 UTC  

real memories are more valuable because they're results of real events
-> real events are more valuable because they shaped reality
-> an effect on reality is more valuable because ...

2017-07-30 12:59:56 UTC  

where's the foundation at the end of this

2017-07-30 13:00:09 UTC  

there is none

2017-07-30 13:00:16 UTC  

everything is subjective

2017-07-30 13:00:20 UTC  

It is true that that humans have a much harder task. Because we can contemplation our own responsibility. Sure, our nature is compassion, really, to end our anxieties. But we are not gods, yet. We have to still return to the true understanding to be happy.

2017-07-30 13:01:12 UTC  

I will not argue you the 'realness' of things.

2017-07-30 13:01:24 UTC  

Because I know, you already know.

2017-07-30 13:03:03 UTC  

>stating that our nature is compassion
>implying that we will be gods
>implying that there is some true way of being happy

Such a tall building on no foundation

2017-07-30 13:03:50 UTC  

Okay, I am optimistic, but only trying to appeal to you.

2017-07-30 13:04:10 UTC  

I want you to enjoy life

2017-07-30 13:04:35 UTC  

everything is subjective but only a few things are viable when you want a good life

2017-07-30 13:04:45 UTC  

Whether living blind or seeing is subjective, but not really you know

2017-07-30 13:04:57 UTC  

If you will not fall for it, I have the redpill here also.

2017-07-30 13:05:11 UTC  

But you asked for it.

2017-07-30 13:05:52 UTC  

Give you consent.

2017-07-30 13:05:55 UTC  

First of all, our nature is selfish, not compassionate.
Second, implying that we will be gods is extremely optimistic and will probably never be an option for us, at least not in our current biological shape or form.
And last but not least, there is no true way of being happy, "being happy" is just a transient, chemical state which's interpretation is up to us.

2017-07-30 13:06:19 UTC  

Ha

2017-07-30 13:06:39 UTC  

Our nature seems to be more on cooperation than selfishness (the two can work together)

2017-07-30 13:07:01 UTC  

I'm sorry you believe we are set against each other.

2017-07-30 13:07:29 UTC  

You can see this in pretty much every species, the top priority is to ensure an individuals well being, the second priority is to ensure the well being of individuals around it

2017-07-30 13:08:04 UTC  

And this is no "evil selfishness", it's just the design for basically every species as a result of evolution

2017-07-30 13:08:24 UTC  

Our first ancestor was essentially a machine. A single celled organism with very few goals. Survive, consume, reproduce. How are we any different?

2017-07-30 13:08:27 UTC  

Humans evolved in groups, it's not the lone individual of who we evolved from

2017-07-30 13:09:04 UTC  

There's still priorities, and the individual is always its own top priority

2017-07-30 13:09:05 UTC  

The problem is, how to overcome this robotic existence.

2017-07-30 13:09:13 UTC  

Bullshit.

2017-07-30 13:09:29 UTC  

Scientifically, we have no free will. We are conscious insects.

2017-07-30 13:09:33 UTC  

The two align most of the time

2017-07-30 13:09:43 UTC  

Be a selfish asshole and you'll fall out of the group

2017-07-30 13:09:53 UTC  

By removing the flawed biological beings that humans are and replacing them with machines

2017-07-30 13:09:53 UTC  

>no free will
gtfo

2017-07-30 13:10:08 UTC  

gtfo what?

2017-07-30 13:10:18 UTC  

i hate the no free will meme, does it even matter if it's true or not?

2017-07-30 13:10:29 UTC  

Show me free will, I will paypal you 1,000 AUS

2017-07-30 13:10:31 UTC  

It's the inevitable next step of evolution

2017-07-30 13:10:31 UTC  

It's a bs meme pushed by nihilists

2017-07-30 13:10:45 UTC  

i just choose to type this message out of my own free will