Message from @Deleted User

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2017-07-30 13:09:33 UTC  

The two align most of the time

2017-07-30 13:09:43 UTC  

Be a selfish asshole and you'll fall out of the group

2017-07-30 13:09:53 UTC  

By removing the flawed biological beings that humans are and replacing them with machines

2017-07-30 13:09:53 UTC  

>no free will
gtfo

2017-07-30 13:10:08 UTC  

gtfo what?

2017-07-30 13:10:18 UTC  

i hate the no free will meme, does it even matter if it's true or not?

2017-07-30 13:10:29 UTC  

Show me free will, I will paypal you 1,000 AUS

2017-07-30 13:10:31 UTC  

It's the inevitable next step of evolution

2017-07-30 13:10:31 UTC  

It's a bs meme pushed by nihilists

2017-07-30 13:10:45 UTC  

i just choose to type this message out of my own free will

2017-07-30 13:10:50 UTC  

what do you want as proof, chopin?

2017-07-30 13:11:02 UTC  

If you are not determined by material law, do several miracles now.

2017-07-30 13:11:22 UTC  

We'll inevitably hit a point where all labour is being performed by machines and at that point humans will have no other purpose than to sit around and enjoy themselves

2017-07-30 13:11:34 UTC  

so your argument for there not being free will is I can't create miracles?

2017-07-30 13:11:45 UTC  

They will be obsolete, machines will be able to continue what we've started without us in this equation

2017-07-30 13:11:51 UTC  

just because we're restricted by physics doesn't mean we don't have free will in our capacity to do so

2017-07-30 13:11:51 UTC  

What's a demonstration of free will that you'll accept as proof?

2017-07-30 13:12:19 UTC  

Well, what is free will? It is being able to do A instead of B. But since time is linear, A always happens.

2017-07-30 13:12:47 UTC  

What will remain is still humanity, not biological humanity, but humanity nevertheless.

2017-07-30 13:12:47 UTC  

simple example, picking a shirt to put on, how is that not a choice in free will?

2017-07-30 13:13:12 UTC  

Basically because an alternative was never possible.

2017-07-30 13:13:18 UTC  

Science.

2017-07-30 13:13:18 UTC  

why not?

2017-07-30 13:13:30 UTC  

Because only one reality manifests.

2017-07-30 13:13:37 UTC  

It's not falsifiable.

2017-07-30 13:13:48 UTC  

See this is why it's a meme

2017-07-30 13:14:00 UTC  

Why a meme?

2017-07-30 13:14:09 UTC  

No way to prove it and no impact at all if it's true

2017-07-30 13:14:32 UTC  

Yes, free will is like God, a fantasy of human optimism.

2017-07-30 13:14:41 UTC  

It's just as much of a meme as simulation theory

2017-07-30 13:14:51 UTC  

No.

2017-07-30 13:14:51 UTC  

we're in a dream maynee

2017-07-30 13:15:04 UTC  

Simulation requires strict logic.

2017-07-30 13:15:17 UTC  

God is just fantasy, non falsifiable.

2017-07-30 13:15:28 UTC  

I'm not talking about determinism, it's the most boring subject ever

2017-07-30 13:15:33 UTC  

"Because only one reality manifests."
But it was chosen

2017-07-30 13:15:42 UTC  

Yes, and?

2017-07-30 13:16:02 UTC  

How do you know the alternative wasn't possible

2017-07-30 13:16:05 UTC  

>implying that you can logically prove whether you live in a simulation or not

2017-07-30 13:16:24 UTC  

You can, actually. Shall we?

2017-07-30 13:16:33 UTC  

Sure