@Timo))) maybe, but it did happen

See: the Nissan plant in Mississippi

that is the entire premise of a general strike

It did happen, and the government then passed laws

It's not the unions alone

it's hard enough doing localized strikes

imagine trying a general one

@Timo))) no, the companies surrendered, the governement isn't a part of this

yes they are

you need money and the people with money don't like strikes in this culture

Those laws were passed by the government

@Timo))) but the thing saying that you cant work more than x hours and proper conditions and so on are not things in the law

@Ulstèr-Scotch Join the military tbh

they're a part of the unions

When I start a business there's a million regulations I have to abide by

@Zulaw national strikes work better. Everything is more interconnected now. One day national strike would take much profits out of capitalist pocket. One plant strike never worked.

fx: there is no minimum wage in denmark, it is through the unions

It's not the unions giving me those regulations

it's the government

@Firefly okay, but if we struggle to organize locally, organizing nationally isn't exactly plausible

@Timo))) I don't know about america, but a lot of those are things you have to adhere to not because of the government, but because of the union that the worker has

also those regulations aren't labor

And those unions lobby for the laws

Same here in the netherlands

The government was the one who passed the 8 hour work day

I'm joining the army next year pham @Anglican

Actually, cool

Unions barely exist, mostly in public sector, and lobbying is done by massive corporations

@Timo))) but you can just leave your union and work more than that

US is fucked

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@Zulaw who "we"? Left wing don't even have an organization. There is no we at this moment.

Unions are comprised of workers, not left or right

Now yes, but it was the government who mandated it in the past

Now thankfully unions are dying

Which workers tend to lean economically left and socially right

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which workers aren't fans of self-interest

@Anglican probably not much of a correlation

You're mistaking correlation for causation

@Timo))) "okay". Only time will tell how things will play out