Message from @Deleted User

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2017-09-09 07:18:59 UTC  

''The saying was a response to a young rich man who had asked Jesus what he needed to do in order to inherit eternal life. Jesus replied that he should keep the commandments, to which the man stated he had done. Jesus responded, "If you want to be perfect, go, sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me." The young man became sad and was unwilling to do this. Jesus then spoke this response, leaving his disciples astonished.''

2017-09-09 07:19:33 UTC  

You're meant to fight against your sin, believing that those sins are wrong and such is not enough. Although I know we all conciously sin still, but you know.

2017-09-09 07:20:14 UTC  

Anyway, religion is still offering a pathway to immortal life, that's the main point for the theory to work.

2017-09-09 07:20:37 UTC  

That's the natural assumpition of the human mind.

2017-09-09 07:21:00 UTC  

And hell, which non religious people don't need to worry about

2017-09-09 07:21:21 UTC  

We already discussed this.

2017-09-09 07:21:35 UTC  

Threat of death comes first.

2017-09-09 07:21:54 UTC  

And is less terror than the thought of hell

2017-09-09 07:22:01 UTC  

I didn't much worry about death even when I was an atheist.

2017-09-09 07:22:03 UTC  

For you and your loved ones

2017-09-09 07:22:39 UTC  

Threat of death -> make religion to cope -> raise the stakes to increase stakes and confidence -> increases need to convert and herd society into the religion

2017-09-09 07:23:10 UTC  

Death was just death to myself; I don't think a fear of death (in the modern world) is the issue. it's a need for support in a collasping society.

2017-09-09 07:23:12 UTC  

too one dimensional

2017-09-09 07:23:34 UTC  

>too one dimensional
How's that?

2017-09-09 07:23:58 UTC  

There's heaven so that means is nothing but a coping mechanism is what it sounds like

2017-09-09 07:24:04 UTC  

We fear death when we have strong families and close-knitted together communities. Not falling a part shit piles based upon bullshit values.

2017-09-09 07:24:15 UTC  

You make it sound like hell is just added later to scare the masses

2017-09-09 07:24:30 UTC  

Wait, Tim, you're a Christian?

2017-09-09 07:24:52 UTC  

Not sure tbh

2017-09-09 07:24:56 UTC  

Used to be an atheist

2017-09-09 07:25:02 UTC  

@Anglican This.

2017-09-09 07:25:13 UTC  

>Capitalist modernist

2017-09-09 07:25:19 UTC  

>become deist unsure

2017-09-09 07:25:22 UTC  

>leaning Christian

2017-09-09 07:25:33 UTC  

Oh I'm still a capitalist

2017-09-09 07:25:38 UTC  

**Oy**

2017-09-09 07:25:47 UTC  

You'll have to drop that eventually.

2017-09-09 07:25:51 UTC  

Never

2017-09-09 07:26:00 UTC  

Be gone DEMON

2017-09-09 07:26:06 UTC  

Free this young man!

2017-09-09 07:26:10 UTC  

This is just a secular theory, not intended to be used against theism. We'll end it there.

2017-09-09 07:26:22 UTC  

What?

2017-09-09 07:26:32 UTC  

**Okay**

2017-09-09 07:27:05 UTC  

@Anglican Me and Tim were discussing the theory that religion exists as a coping mechanism for the threat of death.

2017-09-09 07:27:16 UTC  

And I derailed it, ey?

2017-09-09 07:27:27 UTC  

I would be happy for you to continue your discussion of Christianity.

2017-09-09 07:27:28 UTC  

Sorry if I did.

2017-09-09 07:28:35 UTC  

The idea has actually gave me room to pause and reflect on my atheism. Because the thread of death has created in me lots of terror and anxiety. The toll of materialism has been great on my mental wellbeing.

2017-09-09 07:29:35 UTC  

Could it be that it's not how you're meant to be, dear Chopin? I don't want to sound emotionally abusive when I say this, but if something is completely tearing you up inside, You should work to either come to peace with it or get rid of it.

2017-09-09 07:29:48 UTC  

My rational mind fully accepts it, but the rest of my physiology revolts against it.

2017-09-09 07:30:23 UTC  

It's like a nightmare.