Message from @Chalin

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2017-09-09 23:03:37 UTC  

Tito is the best

2017-09-09 23:08:54 UTC  

*Becker describes human pursuit of “immortality projects” (or causa sui), in which an we create or become part of something that we feel will outlast our time on earth. In doing so, we feel that we become heroic and part of something eternal that will never die, compared to the physical body that will eventually die. This gives human beings the belief that our lives have meaning, purpose, and significance in the grand scheme of things.*

2017-09-09 23:09:54 UTC  

*Still, for Becker, the only suitable source of meaning is transcendent, cosmic energy, divine purpose:

"But I don’t think one can be a hero in any really elevating sense without some transcendental referent like being a hero for God, or for the creative powers of the universe. The most exalted type of heroism involves feeling that one has lived to some purpose that transcends oneself. This is why religion gives him the validation that nothing else gives him. … When you finally break through your character armor and discover your vulnerability, it becomes impossible to live without massive anxiety unless you find a new power source. And this is where the idea of God comes in (Keen 1974)."*

2017-09-09 23:15:32 UTC  

*Science attempts to serve as an immortality project, something that Becker believes it can never do, because it is unable to provide agreeable, absolute meanings to human life.*

2017-09-09 23:22:47 UTC  

*...the only suitable source of meaning is transcendent, cosmic energy, divine purpose*

2017-09-09 23:22:54 UTC  

**divine purpose**

2017-09-09 23:30:51 UTC  

*Thus, since humanity has a dualistic nature consisting of a physical self and a symbolic self, we are able to transcend the dilemma of mortality through heroism, by focusing our attention mainly on our symbolic selves. This symbolic self-focus takes the form of an individual's "immortality project" (or "causa sui project"), which is essentially a symbolic belief-system that ensures oneself is believed superior to physical reality. By successfully living under the terms of the immortality project, people feel they can become heroic and, henceforth, part of something eternal; something that will never die as compared to their physical body. This, in turn, gives people the feeling that their lives have meaning, a purpose, and are significant in the grand scheme of things.*

2017-09-09 23:37:20 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/308950154222895104/356221568726204417/purpose.png

2017-09-09 23:39:15 UTC  

```Proverbs 19:21

Many are the plans in a person’s heart,
but it is the Lord’s purpose that prevails.```

2017-09-10 03:36:34 UTC  
2017-09-10 04:25:46 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/308950154222895104/356294158031519744/1491915198226.png

2017-09-10 04:59:48 UTC  

Whomst've'th mentioned me?

2017-09-10 04:59:58 UTC  

@🅱host 🅱alaxies#6270 Also, stop it

2017-09-10 05:03:57 UTC  

@🅱host 🅱alaxies#6270 Rick and morty is an intelliectual show.

2017-09-10 05:07:57 UTC  

It's not even good art

2017-09-10 05:08:11 UTC  

Is it purely gross out? I'm assuming it is.

2017-09-10 05:26:41 UTC  

Is anarchocomminism a meme?

2017-09-10 05:29:25 UTC  

@Chalin No, it's real. Not a very convincing theory, but it exists unironically by many Anarchists.

2017-09-10 05:30:16 UTC  

It seems equally if not more nonsensical than ancap

2017-09-10 05:30:44 UTC  

Because communism requires the state to own the property

2017-09-10 05:30:57 UTC  

But you can't have state owned property without a state

2017-09-10 05:31:14 UTC  

Chalin, I haven't read up on it but supporters of it are very defensive.

2017-09-10 05:31:21 UTC  

It should be called anarchomarxism or something else

2017-09-10 05:31:39 UTC  

If it is a legitimate ideology, it's name is poorly chosen

2017-09-10 05:32:26 UTC  

Oh boy. Where do I start and can I be bothered.

2017-09-10 05:32:52 UTC  

I can't.

2017-09-10 05:33:08 UTC  

How about the name. Is there a more accurate name for it?

2017-09-10 05:33:51 UTC  

Marxism uses Socialism to reach Communism. AnCom just detroys the state to achieve communism. I agree it's pretty retarded.

2017-09-10 05:34:14 UTC  

But there are insurrectionists who believe in continued fighting against the state post-revolution.

2017-09-10 05:34:25 UTC  

It hasn't been tried yet.

2017-09-10 05:34:30 UTC  

As I am aware it abolishes the state functions, capitalism and private property for common ownership. Not sure how that works.

2017-09-10 05:34:43 UTC  

Sounds too crazy for me to read and take seriously.

2017-09-10 05:34:57 UTC  

The main problem with anarchism is that in order for it to succeed post-revolution is resorts to authoritarianism through necessity.

2017-09-10 05:35:13 UTC  

I mean, in the past it has.

2017-09-10 05:35:33 UTC  

Its hard to prevent anarchy from devolving either into a state, or into barbarism

2017-09-10 05:35:37 UTC  

Insurrectionists think they can maintain an indefinite guerrilla war.

2017-09-10 05:35:58 UTC  

And this is seen as the height of Anarchist thought.

2017-09-10 05:36:10 UTC  

I unironically sympathised with this. Because it's fun.

2017-09-10 05:36:47 UTC  

I don't consider any violent means to be a legitimate way of dealing with a state who isn't violent to its own citizens

2017-09-10 05:37:00 UTC  

I mean if you thrive in an anarchist society it doesn't seem so bad. Don't know how long would last like that though.