Message from @Deleted User

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2017-09-28 06:04:38 UTC  

not the previous generations issues

2017-09-28 06:06:43 UTC  

According to what? After the supreme leader is in power, the whole game of how he got there changes. There is no going back. No 'backsies'.

2017-09-28 06:07:30 UTC  

he can't go back correct

2017-09-28 06:07:49 UTC  

that leader will serve the people for the rest of his life

2017-09-28 06:09:05 UTC  

This is why Anarchism is best. No short term ends. Just one person and their commitment against dominance.

2017-09-28 06:09:14 UTC  

yes

2017-09-28 06:09:23 UTC  

but you must remember

2017-09-28 06:09:32 UTC  

the people can not defend themselves

2017-09-28 06:09:37 UTC  

not well atleast

2017-09-28 06:10:08 UTC  

even now one of the main purposes of government is to defend the people

2017-09-28 06:11:55 UTC  

Let me burst a bubble for you. What you have in your head about 'things' making people more powerful and being able to achieve things, are just imaginary power structures. What is really being done here but the re-arranging of duties in people's lives? This sacred thing you call 'government' is just made up of people pointed in a certain direction. We shouldn't limit ourselves to being controlled by this idea, but take it and realise it was the 'people' making this happen all along.

2017-09-28 06:12:46 UTC  

I understand the government is made by the people

2017-09-28 06:13:00 UTC  

it is made to defend and assist the people

2017-09-28 06:13:13 UTC  

Defence of what?

2017-09-28 06:13:32 UTC  

of the people inhabiting the land of the government

2017-09-28 06:13:54 UTC  

imagine

2017-09-28 06:14:09 UTC  

if there was an anarchist society

2017-09-28 06:14:13 UTC  

so

2017-09-28 06:14:17 UTC  

this means

2017-09-28 06:14:24 UTC  

no coherent military

2017-09-28 06:14:37 UTC  

no military funding or construction

2017-09-28 06:14:49 UTC  

now

2017-09-28 06:14:59 UTC  

if said society gets invaded

2017-09-28 06:15:05 UTC  

they are screwed

2017-09-28 06:15:25 UTC  

they cant produce enough to counter the enemy

2017-09-28 06:15:30 UTC  

actually

2017-09-28 06:15:37 UTC  

they could not produce at all

2017-09-28 06:16:54 UTC  

Anarchism is not a society or a system, it is just the negation of systems. People are free to achieve and cooperate much more than a petty government instruction.

2017-09-28 06:17:21 UTC  

yes

2017-09-28 06:17:42 UTC  

but having that eliminates the possibility of a military

2017-09-28 06:17:59 UTC  

due to a military is a government upon itself

2017-09-28 06:18:17 UTC  

Military is just like government. The status quo in social relations.

2017-09-28 06:18:29 UTC  

yes

2017-09-28 06:18:52 UTC  

so a military is effectively impossible in an anarchy

2017-09-28 06:19:44 UTC  

In the traditional sense, of course.

2017-09-28 06:20:11 UTC  

is there a non traditional sense?

2017-09-28 06:26:32 UTC  

Raiders.

2017-09-28 06:28:32 UTC  

Offence vs defence remember?

2017-09-28 06:28:39 UTC  

yes

2017-09-28 06:28:52 UTC  

but raiders are unorganized

2017-09-28 06:28:52 UTC  

And I still want to ask you, defence of what? Private property.