They support their people, they don't just let them starve, etc

>they still think socialism is the government doing stuff

Can't read German

By this logic socialists may as well bow to the feet of FDR.

Don't know that image, don't know who drew it, don't know if it's legitimate, don't know how it's even remotely relevant

It's a political cartoon showcasing what national socialism really was.

Also

"National socialism thinks that corporations shouldn't shit all over people"

This is basically the nazbol approach

That's why they shut down every independent union am I right?

>DON'T MENTION THE CAPITALISTIC JEWS MAAAN

>literally whatabout duh jews

i mean thats kind of another fallacy u have to actually research it first before dismissing it like that

Nah just mentioning that it's the nazbol approach

I do my research.

Because you were raging about it earlier

That's why I became a socialist, literally.

"1. The right to employment

The foundation for solving the social question is the realization of the right to employment, which can only happen through our job creation program. A law on employment will lay down the rights of the worker. Freedom for creative labor will be assured, freedom for capitalist exploitation abolished."

from the nsdap economic program

If you did your research you wouldn't be a communist

if communism worked in any case but a utopian society where it is an arbitrary concept in that regard id be a communist

Nobody says it's going to be utopian

@styles That was a program in many capitalist nations at the time. They name drop capitalists and exploitation in there but it's pretty much a bastardization of the term.

Exploitation refers to the extraction of surplus value.

This argument is really just a bunch of semantics

@olev good because it wouldn't be

Lol

thats not only definition i think

It isn't a bunch of semantics.

It's literally "what is socialism" in a different context.

Socialism has a scientific definition in relation to economics, not some idealist bullshit.

Marxists will define it differently than NS, in the end they're all just words.

'scientfic definition'

what do you mean by this

National Socialists have their own special snowflake definition because they're not actually socialists.

These arguments never really achieve anything, because we have completely different worldivews, not just political differences.

Didn't USSR shut down the unions too

They approve of private property, private ownership, capitalists, surplus value extraction, capital accumulation, etc.

socialistic economics is a measure i would take it

They aren't socialists.