Message from @Seedle

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2017-10-02 00:15:56 UTC  

There was already one revolution in Germany, and there was about to be another if the KPD organized more power. Their natural instinct was to support Hitler and keynesian policies.

2017-10-02 00:16:48 UTC  

i dont get it

2017-10-02 00:16:55 UTC  

so the name just contradicts its own meaning by definition

2017-10-02 00:17:29 UTC  

whether or not hitler precisely used the concept of national socialism isnt really relevant but the actual meaning of it

2017-10-02 00:18:08 UTC  

Hitler had his own definition of socialism, that wasn't economic related at all

2017-10-02 00:18:21 UTC  

"National Socialism" is still capitalist, natsocs don't like to admit it

2017-10-02 00:18:27 UTC  

in what way

2017-10-02 00:18:29 UTC  

good night

2017-10-02 00:18:43 UTC  

define 'national socialism' then

2017-10-02 00:18:48 UTC  

>it says socialism so it must be socialist

2017-10-02 00:19:06 UTC  

I guess the DPRK is a democratic people's republic then

2017-10-02 00:19:34 UTC  

so then two feet means three feet?

2017-10-02 00:20:39 UTC  

National socialism supports people as a community, as cogs in a machine. It isn't 100% comparable to actual socialism, but it's against this idea that corporations can shit all over everyone

2017-10-02 00:21:08 UTC  

Iirc there were some socialistic measures

2017-10-02 00:21:20 UTC  

Earlier guy mentioned pregnant women and so forth

2017-10-02 00:21:33 UTC  

They support their people, they don't just let them starve, etc

2017-10-02 00:21:37 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/308950154222895104/364205247884951562/main-qimg-7efe5842f200660dc2b7ce743f852f5e-c.png

2017-10-02 00:21:38 UTC  

>they still think socialism is the government doing stuff

2017-10-02 00:21:47 UTC  

Can't read German

2017-10-02 00:21:53 UTC  

By this logic socialists may as well bow to the feet of FDR.

2017-10-02 00:22:23 UTC  

Don't know that image, don't know who drew it, don't know if it's legitimate, don't know how it's even remotely relevant

2017-10-02 00:22:47 UTC  

It's a political cartoon showcasing what national socialism really was.

2017-10-02 00:23:01 UTC  

Also

2017-10-02 00:23:13 UTC  

"National socialism thinks that corporations shouldn't shit all over people"

2017-10-02 00:23:23 UTC  

This is basically the nazbol approach

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/308950154222895104/364205689855410177/quote-as-socialists-we-are-opponents-of-the-jews-because-we-see-in-the-hebrews-the-incarnation-josep.jpg

2017-10-02 00:23:29 UTC  

That's why they shut down every independent union am I right?

2017-10-02 00:23:58 UTC  

>DON'T MENTION THE CAPITALISTIC JEWS MAAAN

2017-10-02 00:24:17 UTC  

>literally whatabout duh jews

2017-10-02 00:24:40 UTC  

i mean thats kind of another fallacy u have to actually research it first before dismissing it like that

2017-10-02 00:24:45 UTC  

Nah just mentioning that it's the nazbol approach

2017-10-02 00:24:51 UTC  

I do my research.

2017-10-02 00:24:52 UTC  

Because you were raging about it earlier

2017-10-02 00:24:57 UTC  

That's why I became a socialist, literally.

2017-10-02 00:24:58 UTC  

"1. The right to employment

The foundation for solving the social question is the realization of the right to employment, which can only happen through our job creation program. A law on employment will lay down the rights of the worker. Freedom for creative labor will be assured, freedom for capitalist exploitation abolished."

2017-10-02 00:25:09 UTC  

from the nsdap economic program

2017-10-02 00:25:09 UTC  

If you did your research you wouldn't be a communist

2017-10-02 00:25:29 UTC  

if communism worked in any case but a utopian society where it is an arbitrary concept in that regard id be a communist

2017-10-02 00:25:47 UTC  

Nobody says it's going to be utopian

2017-10-02 00:25:53 UTC  

@styles That was a program in many capitalist nations at the time. They name drop capitalists and exploitation in there but it's pretty much a bastardization of the term.

2017-10-02 00:26:13 UTC  

Exploitation refers to the extraction of surplus value.