Message from @olev
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@styles That was a program in many capitalist nations at the time. They name drop capitalists and exploitation in there but it's pretty much a bastardization of the term.
Exploitation refers to the extraction of surplus value.
This argument is really just a bunch of semantics
@olev good because it wouldn't be
Lol
thats not only definition i think
It isn't a bunch of semantics.
It's literally "what is socialism" in a different context.
Socialism has a scientific definition in relation to economics, not some idealist bullshit.
Marxists will define it differently than NS, in the end they're all just words.
'scientfic definition'
what do you mean by this
National Socialists have their own special snowflake definition because they're not actually socialists.
These arguments never really achieve anything, because we have completely different worldivews, not just political differences.
Didn't USSR shut down the unions too
They approve of private property, private ownership, capitalists, surplus value extraction, capital accumulation, etc.
socialistic economics is a measure i would take it
They aren't socialists.
@National Trotskyist Yeah.
For different reasons though.
You heard it right here folks
welfare is socialistic
1950's america was literally socialism.
It isn't
taxes is not on the basis of socialism
Welfalre is not socialist
An effective argument, wouldn't focus on the material differences and policies of past states, but rather on the worldviews that these ideas belong to
Welfare is not ownership, it's a way to make being poor less shitty.
Rather forever poor
a political and economic theory of social organization that advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole.
synonyms: leftism, welfarism; More
'welfarism'
freikorps a correct argument is about using objective reasoning so therefore subjective interest is fallacious in any argument
"the principles or policies associated with a welfare state."
>google definition
"means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole."
The means of production is not owned in a welfare state.
owned by who
By the community or society, or specifically in Marxism, the working-class
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