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And ww2 would’ve never happened
Pic related shows Warsaw burning after being saturated with German bomb raids in September 1939 during the Polenfeldzug. I sure am curious what proofs deniers have to offer that would place Allied bombing of civilian targets on a date earlier than this. If they say "British bombing of German Wilhelmshaven on September 4th, 1939", they will lose, because on 1 September 1939, at 04:40, the Luftwaffe bombed the Polish town of Wieluń, destroying 75% of the city and killing close to 1,200 people, most of them civilians.
So, the revisionists will carefully move the goalposts from "first bombing" to "first strategic bombing of a major city". But even here, they lose, because of the bombing of Warsaw:
As the German Army approached Warsaw on 8 September 1939, 140 Junkers Ju-87 Stukas attacked the portions of the city on the east bank of the Vistula River and other bombers bombed the Polish Army positions in the western suburbs. On 13 September Luftwaffe level and dive bombers caused widespread fires. Finally, starting at 0800 on 25 September, Luftwaffe bombers under the command of Major Wolfram Freiherr von Richthofen conducted the largest air raid ever seen by that time, dropping 560 tons of high explosive bombs and 72 tons of incendiary bombs, in coordination with heavy artillery shelling by Army units. The center of Warsaw was badly damaged. Approximately 1,150 sorties were flown by a wide variety of aircraft. By estimates around 20,000 to 25,000 civilians were killed, 40 percent of the buildings in the city were damaged and 10 percent of the buildings destroyed. However, some of the damage was the result of ground artillery fire and not solely caused by aerial bombing—including intense street fighting between German infantry and armor units and Polish infantry and artillery. The September 25 raid was an example of terror bombing, with the aim of breaking Polish morale and forcing a Polish surrender.
WW2 was started because Adolf Hitler went against the Jew World Order.
@Heliotrope No, this isn't about the Soviet and Polish targets
I will read both these articles
It's about British targets
The Middle East was at peace when Europe was drowned in wars
Britain started the civvie bombings between them and Germany
Middle east was never at peace
Ever
They had absolutely no reason to start that shit
Yet they did
Costing many British civilian lives
Eye for an eye makes the world blind.
He did have a reason
To vilify the axis
I'm sure
To make his people think dying for that dumb cause was worth it
Because you wanted it.
Who’s your favorite waifus everyone?
Waifus? Tough call
Franco is my Waifu
Abukuma from the game Kantai Collection Kancolle wins for me.
Franco from the nationalist spain collection
^ lol
Now of course, the revisionists will conveniently further move the goalposts and say "well we were talking about whether Germans deliberately bombed British first or whether British deliberately bombed Germans first, and we can guarantee you it was the British who bombed Germans first!"
The smirking historical revisionist will then proceed to point out the following date: September 4th, 1939. And name you the city: Wilhelmshaven. He might go to say: It was the first RAF Bomber Command raid of World War II, where ten Bristol Blenheims of No. 110 and No. 107 Squadrons attacked units of the German fleet at low altitude. Except...what he will not say, is that said attack ended in the squadron losing half their number without achieving any significantly damaging hits. Would you consider a terrorist blowing himself up in a crowd but managing to kill none except himself a successful terrorist attack worth remembering compared to one where people actually do get killed?
Therefore, the widely accepted view is that Germany successfully bombed British civilians first when a bomber flying over London lost its way and bombed a number of houses instead of factories, killing civilians. In retaliation Britain lead an all out bombing raid on Berlin killing a handful of civilians. Thus, it was Germany who started the bombing of CIVILIANS between itself and Britain, and that's what is considered an atrocity - not any successful or failed attempts to bomb military targets.
So to answer the question, only between Britain and Germany, was Britain the first to intentionally order the bombing of non-military targets in German cities, but the Germans were the first to unintentionally kill British civilians, and intentionally kill allied civilians in their bombing raids in Poland, France, Norway, Holland and Belgium. But it gets a bit more complicated because the first deliberate British attack on a German city itself, rather than ON a military target IN a city, was the attack on Mannheim on 16 December 1940. But by then thousands of British civilians had been already killed by the Luftwaffe in what is known as "the Blitz".
Also >hurr Germany bombed civilians specifically in Poland and Russia
Bullshit, they bombed industrial centers and garrisons
Actually tbh franco only had a few good ideals
@chill with that shit Franco was a capitalist sellout
Who’s Franco?
Agreed @Deleted User
But he had a few good ideals
I feel like spain would be alot better if the carlists took over
@Heliotrope That narrative writing
Fucking sickening