Message from @su

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2017-10-29 06:26:33 UTC  

Technically speaking while Churchill was a dick ww2 can be boiled up to frances fault

2017-10-29 06:26:37 UTC  

They all were

2017-10-29 06:26:51 UTC  

France decided to save Poland, or try to

2017-10-29 06:26:51 UTC  

Germany bombed civilian targets first

2017-10-29 06:26:57 UTC  

Only the winners deserve some respect

2017-10-29 06:27:00 UTC  

I see ww2 as serbias fault

2017-10-29 06:27:03 UTC  

@Heliotrope Ancient lie

2017-10-29 06:27:04 UTC  

They were all awful murderers

2017-10-29 06:27:07 UTC  

prove it

2017-10-29 06:27:08 UTC  

It was Britain

2017-10-29 06:27:33 UTC  

Su, ww2 was a bloody shitshow and a lot of people died but it didn’t have to be that way

2017-10-29 06:27:40 UTC  

The allies could’ve stayed out of it

2017-10-29 06:27:46 UTC  

And ww2 would’ve never happened

2017-10-29 06:28:01 UTC  

Pic related shows Warsaw burning after being saturated with German bomb raids in September 1939 during the Polenfeldzug. I sure am curious what proofs deniers have to offer that would place Allied bombing of civilian targets on a date earlier than this. If they say "British bombing of German Wilhelmshaven on September 4th, 1939", they will lose, because on 1 September 1939, at 04:40, the Luftwaffe bombed the Polish town of Wieluń, destroying 75% of the city and killing close to 1,200 people, most of them civilians.

So, the revisionists will carefully move the goalposts from "first bombing" to "first strategic bombing of a major city". But even here, they lose, because of the bombing of Warsaw:

As the German Army approached Warsaw on 8 September 1939, 140 Junkers Ju-87 Stukas attacked the portions of the city on the east bank of the Vistula River and other bombers bombed the Polish Army positions in the western suburbs. On 13 September Luftwaffe level and dive bombers caused widespread fires. Finally, starting at 0800 on 25 September, Luftwaffe bombers under the command of Major Wolfram Freiherr von Richthofen conducted the largest air raid ever seen by that time, dropping 560 tons of high explosive bombs and 72 tons of incendiary bombs, in coordination with heavy artillery shelling by Army units. The center of Warsaw was badly damaged. Approximately 1,150 sorties were flown by a wide variety of aircraft. By estimates around 20,000 to 25,000 civilians were killed, 40 percent of the buildings in the city were damaged and 10 percent of the buildings destroyed. However, some of the damage was the result of ground artillery fire and not solely caused by aerial bombing—including intense street fighting between German infantry and armor units and Polish infantry and artillery. The September 25 raid was an example of terror bombing, with the aim of breaking Polish morale and forcing a Polish surrender.

2017-10-29 06:28:19 UTC  

WW2 was started because Adolf Hitler went against the Jew World Order.

2017-10-29 06:28:22 UTC  

@Heliotrope No, this isn't about the Soviet and Polish targets

2017-10-29 06:28:25 UTC  

I will read both these articles

2017-10-29 06:28:27 UTC  

It's about British targets

2017-10-29 06:28:30 UTC  

The Middle East was at peace when Europe was drowned in wars

2017-10-29 06:28:37 UTC  

Britain started the civvie bombings between them and Germany

2017-10-29 06:28:39 UTC  

Middle east was never at peace

2017-10-29 06:28:41 UTC  

Ever

2017-10-29 06:28:46 UTC  

They had absolutely no reason to start that shit

2017-10-29 06:28:48 UTC  

Yet they did

2017-10-29 06:28:56 UTC  

Costing many British civilian lives

2017-10-29 06:29:13 UTC  

Eye for an eye makes the world blind.

2017-10-29 06:29:17 UTC  

He did have a reason

2017-10-29 06:29:21 UTC  

To vilify the axis

2017-10-29 06:29:28 UTC  

I'm sure

2017-10-29 06:29:32 UTC  

To make his people think dying for that dumb cause was worth it

2017-10-29 06:29:37 UTC  

Why are we talking about politics?

2017-10-29 06:29:45 UTC  

Because you wanted it.

2017-10-29 06:29:45 UTC  

Who’s your favorite waifus everyone?

2017-10-29 06:29:57 UTC  

Waifus? Tough call

2017-10-29 06:30:08 UTC  

Franco is my Waifu

2017-10-29 06:30:13 UTC  

Abukuma from the game Kantai Collection Kancolle wins for me.

2017-10-29 06:30:24 UTC  

Franco from the nationalist spain collection

2017-10-29 06:30:30 UTC  

^ lol

2017-10-29 06:30:33 UTC  

Now of course, the revisionists will conveniently further move the goalposts and say "well we were talking about whether Germans deliberately bombed British first or whether British deliberately bombed Germans first, and we can guarantee you it was the British who bombed Germans first!"

The smirking historical revisionist will then proceed to point out the following date: September 4th, 1939. And name you the city: Wilhelmshaven. He might go to say: It was the first RAF Bomber Command raid of World War II, where ten Bristol Blenheims of No. 110 and No. 107 Squadrons attacked units of the German fleet at low altitude. Except...what he will not say, is that said attack ended in the squadron losing half their number without achieving any significantly damaging hits. Would you consider a terrorist blowing himself up in a crowd but managing to kill none except himself a successful terrorist attack worth remembering compared to one where people actually do get killed?

Therefore, the widely accepted view is that Germany successfully bombed British civilians first when a bomber flying over London lost its way and bombed a number of houses instead of factories, killing civilians. In retaliation Britain lead an all out bombing raid on Berlin killing a handful of civilians. Thus, it was Germany who started the bombing of CIVILIANS between itself and Britain, and that's what is considered an atrocity - not any successful or failed attempts to bomb military targets.