Message from @reedpopper
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what
nigga are you having a stroke
Immaterial doesn't mean nonexistant
That is such fucking retardation
I don't know who taught you that but he should kill himself
give me an example of something immaterial
Concepts
You cannot experience concepts. Yet they exist in some fashion.
What is thought it not material also
Mathematics is an example
concepts are symbols which refer to certain concrete things
Numbers don't stop existing because you can't *feel* them
maths is based on existing measurements of physical things
They have a relation with materials
But they are not material themselves
they do lmao, they only exist bc we use them to designate concrete things
They measure materials, but they themselves are not material
It is a concept
oh my god
You're braindead
do you realize that symbols are as material as the other concrete things they designate
It doesn't exist because you've been hopped up on theoretical writings rather than common sense
Symbols transcribed into material
ask any man on the street and they'll tell you that numbers are things written on a paper or a computer lmao
how's that not common sense
If you make a symbol out of materials, then that symbol is then represented in a material form
Ultimately the very concept or thought of the symbol lies not in the material world
The text formed on your screen is material
jfc
materialist philosophy: talks about physical material in the world we are experiencing, eg something that is real
immaterial philosophy: talks about concepts about things that do not actually exist in the world like God or other imaginary probabilities
What the text means is not formed on the screen
numbers that you imagine in your brain lie in the material world bc by definition they're in your head
@big fat memes >not being both
What do you not understand
Where is the disconnect
the disconnect is that numbers for example are symbols which can be found in the material world and they designate material things
so they cannot be immaterial
there is no such dichotomy
@reedpopper They are but they are not, the interaction of your brain matter to create the thought is material, but the concept they formulate is based off of something that would exist even without your brain
Therefore the concept is not material