otherwise you're braindead

Science is immaterial.
The very concept is immaterial, the whole observing the material world. The relationships of materials are immaterial.

do you just arbitrarily put words together

And if it isn't, then it is not science

@reedpopper No more than you

my sides

why was i added here

To be bullied by me

are you the leader of your local chess club

I'm the leader of this server.

is this the first time you ever led anything

@Firefly Is just my alter ego :^)

Is this the first time you've been served in short order?

what

nigga are you having a stroke

Immaterial doesn't mean nonexistant

That is such fucking retardation

I don't know who taught you that but he should kill himself

give me an example of something immaterial

Concepts

You cannot experience concepts. Yet they exist in some fashion.

What is thought it not material also

Mathematics is an example

concepts are symbols which refer to certain concrete things

Numbers don't stop existing because you can't *feel* them

maths is based on existing measurements of physical things

They have a relation with materials

But they are not material themselves

they do lmao, they only exist bc we use them to designate concrete things

They measure materials, but they themselves are not material

It is a concept

oh my god

You're braindead

the dichotomy you talk about does not exist

do you realize that symbols are as material as the other concrete things they designate

It doesn't exist because you've been hopped up on theoretical writings rather than common sense

Symbols transcribed into material

ask any man on the street and they'll tell you that numbers are things written on a paper or a computer lmao

how's that not common sense

If you make a symbol out of materials, then that symbol is then represented in a material form

Ultimately the very concept or thought of the symbol lies not in the material world