Message from @Kurt Sturm

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2017-10-31 04:22:14 UTC  

I can't believe you people here claim to be Communists

2017-10-31 04:22:14 UTC  

People can’t own a company or a factory? Even if it’s four or more people?

2017-10-31 04:22:19 UTC  

Yet you cuck to fascism

2017-10-31 04:22:38 UTC  

@su They can't own it but they can manage it.

2017-10-31 04:22:45 UTC  

@su You need state ownership for a planned economy

2017-10-31 04:22:53 UTC  

In a socialist state, people cannot own a factory or company but can manage it yes

2017-10-31 04:22:55 UTC  

Debatable @olev

2017-10-31 04:23:14 UTC  

Ownership leads to capitalism and the abuse of workers

2017-10-31 04:23:24 UTC  

Thus it is lead by a cooperative effort

2017-10-31 04:23:29 UTC  

In a socialist country there can’t be stores like Zara and all these brands?

2017-10-31 04:23:43 UTC  

Because they’re owned by foreigners?

2017-10-31 04:23:56 UTC  

Owned by the state

2017-10-31 04:23:58 UTC  

Products like those can still exist but those brands should not

2017-10-31 04:24:36 UTC  

@su Depends on the level of the socialist economy and trade policy. Trade with companies might be permitted or not.

2017-10-31 04:24:40 UTC  

You think we should fight against fascism but you think what I did was wrong

2017-10-31 04:24:51 UTC  

You literal cucks

2017-10-31 04:24:58 UTC  

I think we should assume it's a total socialist economy for simplicity's sake

2017-10-31 04:25:22 UTC  

I’m asking because Libya was a socialist country but they had Zara and stores like that

2017-10-31 04:25:29 UTC  

I've never seen one. Even NK is not total. And USSR was very much open.

2017-10-31 04:25:30 UTC  

It confused me

2017-10-31 04:25:35 UTC  

Libya was not a socialist country.

2017-10-31 04:25:50 UTC  

It was

2017-10-31 04:25:55 UTC  

Qaddafi was a socialist

2017-10-31 04:25:56 UTC  

@Kurt Sturm Lybia was partly a socialist country.

2017-10-31 04:26:05 UTC  

Literally on its name

2017-10-31 04:26:36 UTC  

The name means nothing

2017-10-31 04:26:48 UTC  

Great socialists peoples Libyan Arab jamaihirya

2017-10-31 04:26:51 UTC  

I wouldn't call that socialist then, also names don't necessarily insinuate what something stands for. Example is the National Socialist German Workers Party or Nazis, they were not socialists.

2017-10-31 04:27:08 UTC  

If there was private industry present, that's hardly socialist.

2017-10-31 04:27:21 UTC  

Just "friendly capitalism"

2017-10-31 04:28:12 UTC  

@Kurt Sturm On the Libian industrial level and African location it hardly could be any socialist but it did advance in that direction greatly.

2017-10-31 04:29:26 UTC  

I agree and even if they were moving in that direction it still wasn't socialism or probably would ever be.

2017-10-31 04:29:53 UTC  

I think they cooperated with these brands

2017-10-31 04:30:02 UTC  

Its allowed says wiki

2017-10-31 04:30:23 UTC  

Friendly capitalism

2017-10-31 04:30:50 UTC  

@Kurt Sturm Socialism is moving in the communist direction and Qaddafi did centralize economy and industrialized it.

2017-10-31 04:31:24 UTC  

What a hell is socialism if not that?

2017-10-31 04:31:59 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/308950154222895104/374777501949493258/image.jpg

2017-10-31 04:32:30 UTC  

>socialism is when the government does stuff, and the more stuff it does the more socialist it is t. firefly :^) :^)

2017-10-31 04:32:54 UTC  

Cooperating is ok in socialism

2017-10-31 04:33:20 UTC  

You can have any foreign brand or company as long as it is cooperating with others from your country?