Message from @羅大哥toni
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wealth=survival
The second source you posted still doesn't actually explain anything about human nature being static
Capital accumulation is not the same as surviving
saving money for your children?
Regardless, you have to be pretty retarded to think you can "disprove" communism by saying "muh human nature"
fair enough, but working to reach survival introduces the person to concepts of gaining wealth
Apparently Marx and Engels, all communist intellectuals and revolutions never thought about human nature
fucking debunked dude
all these books
debunked
"To look at people in capitalist society and conclude that human nature is egoism, is like looking at people in a factory where pollution is destroying their lungs and saying that it is human nature to cough."
Apparently the world goes round because disbanding morality for self-interest is human nature
It is human nature to survive, to eat, to breathe, to socialize, ect.
Amassing wealth is a complex behavior
but it's a learned behavior
Keep in mind that in communism, the work needed is reduced
Because of advanced automation of productive forces
There's a bunch of people who make just enough money to "survive" and don't get ambitious beyond that
Sometimes yes
Amassing a shit ton of money is not everyone's end goal
be a good slave
Most arguments against communism are pretty retarded
They're just regurgitated
and are really short thought
as I said
you can't seriously think human nature debunks all of Marx's work, along with later Communist figureheads
>go back in time
>tell marx that communism doesnt work because muh human nature
>he never writes so communism never exists
how to prevent communism from ever happening
but china type of communism work very well
China became revisionist a long time ago
You can't effectively have socialism in an undeveloped country.
"Soviet America will not have to imitate our bureaucratic methods. Among us the lack of the bare necessities has caused an intense scramble for an extra loaf of bread, an extra yard of cloth by everyone. In this struggle our bureaucracy steps forward as a conciliator, as an all-powerful court of arbitration. You, on the other hand, are much wealthier and would have little difficulty in supplying all of your people with all of the necessities of life. Moreover, your needs, tastes and habits would never permit your bureaucracy to divide the national income. Instead, when you organize your society to produce for human needs rather than private profits, your entire population will group itself around new trends and groups, which will struggle with one another and prevent an overweening bureaucracy from imposing itself upon them." -Leon Trotsky, *If America Should Go Communist*
This is one of the reasons the USSR and China failed
The USSR had shitty living conditions
Anyone interested in joining a new party on ModelUSGov on Reddit?
Like the state housing
It’s authoritarian left basically
That's why Cuba was a disaster. Batista destroyed most industries in Cuba, so trying to implement socialism would just crash onto itself