Message from @olev

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2017-11-06 13:51:17 UTC  

source

2017-11-06 13:51:35 UTC  

>greed

2017-11-06 13:51:42 UTC  

not greed

2017-11-06 13:51:49 UTC  

assumtion of value

2017-11-06 13:51:59 UTC  

survival mechanism basically

2017-11-06 13:52:00 UTC  
2017-11-06 13:52:09 UTC  

I will read what you posted

2017-11-06 13:53:02 UTC  

Dna doesn't dictate what human tendencies are @Deleted User

2017-11-06 13:53:45 UTC  

Competition for survival =/= competition to amass wealth

2017-11-06 13:54:17 UTC  

wealth=survival

2017-11-06 13:54:29 UTC  

The second source you posted still doesn't actually explain anything about human nature being static

2017-11-06 13:54:41 UTC  

Capital accumulation is not the same as surviving

2017-11-06 13:55:07 UTC  

saving money for your children?

2017-11-06 13:55:25 UTC  

Regardless, you have to be pretty retarded to think you can "disprove" communism by saying "muh human nature"

2017-11-06 13:55:42 UTC  

fair enough, but working to reach survival introduces the person to concepts of gaining wealth

2017-11-06 13:55:52 UTC  

Apparently Marx and Engels, all communist intellectuals and revolutions never thought about human nature

2017-11-06 13:56:05 UTC  

fucking debunked dude

2017-11-06 13:56:08 UTC  

all these books

2017-11-06 13:56:09 UTC  

debunked

2017-11-06 13:56:41 UTC  

"To look at people in capitalist society and conclude that human nature is egoism, is like looking at people in a factory where pollution is destroying their lungs and saying that it is human nature to cough."

2017-11-06 13:57:52 UTC  

Apparently the world goes round because disbanding morality for self-interest is human nature

2017-11-06 13:58:23 UTC  

It is human nature to survive, to eat, to breathe, to socialize, ect.

2017-11-06 13:58:36 UTC  

Amassing wealth is a complex behavior

2017-11-06 13:59:58 UTC  

but it's a learned behavior

2017-11-06 14:00:17 UTC  

Keep in mind that in communism, the work needed is reduced

2017-11-06 14:00:26 UTC  

Because of advanced automation of productive forces

2017-11-06 14:00:28 UTC  

There's a bunch of people who make just enough money to "survive" and don't get ambitious beyond that

2017-11-06 14:00:44 UTC  

Sometimes yes

2017-11-06 14:00:47 UTC  

Amassing a shit ton of money is not everyone's end goal

2017-11-06 14:01:03 UTC  

be a good communist party members

2017-11-06 14:01:25 UTC  

be a good slave

2017-11-06 14:01:26 UTC  

Most arguments against communism are pretty retarded

2017-11-06 14:01:30 UTC  

They're just regurgitated

2017-11-06 14:01:37 UTC  

and are really short thought

2017-11-06 14:01:39 UTC  

as I said

2017-11-06 14:01:59 UTC  

you can't seriously think human nature debunks all of Marx's work, along with later Communist figureheads

2017-11-06 14:02:15 UTC  

>go back in time

2017-11-06 14:02:25 UTC  

>tell marx that communism doesnt work because muh human nature

2017-11-06 14:02:35 UTC  

>he never writes so communism never exists

2017-11-06 14:02:54 UTC  

how to prevent communism from ever happening