Message from @olev

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2017-11-06 13:58:36 UTC  

Amassing wealth is a complex behavior

2017-11-06 13:59:58 UTC  

but it's a learned behavior

2017-11-06 14:00:17 UTC  

Keep in mind that in communism, the work needed is reduced

2017-11-06 14:00:26 UTC  

Because of advanced automation of productive forces

2017-11-06 14:00:28 UTC  

There's a bunch of people who make just enough money to "survive" and don't get ambitious beyond that

2017-11-06 14:00:44 UTC  

Sometimes yes

2017-11-06 14:00:47 UTC  

Amassing a shit ton of money is not everyone's end goal

2017-11-06 14:01:03 UTC  

be a good communist party members

2017-11-06 14:01:25 UTC  

be a good slave

2017-11-06 14:01:26 UTC  

Most arguments against communism are pretty retarded

2017-11-06 14:01:30 UTC  

They're just regurgitated

2017-11-06 14:01:37 UTC  

and are really short thought

2017-11-06 14:01:39 UTC  

as I said

2017-11-06 14:01:59 UTC  

you can't seriously think human nature debunks all of Marx's work, along with later Communist figureheads

2017-11-06 14:02:15 UTC  

>go back in time

2017-11-06 14:02:25 UTC  

>tell marx that communism doesnt work because muh human nature

2017-11-06 14:02:35 UTC  

>he never writes so communism never exists

2017-11-06 14:02:54 UTC  

how to prevent communism from ever happening

2017-11-06 14:02:55 UTC  

but china type of communism work very well

2017-11-06 14:03:05 UTC  

China became revisionist a long time ago

2017-11-06 14:04:11 UTC  

You can't effectively have socialism in an undeveloped country.

2017-11-06 14:04:57 UTC  

"Soviet America will not have to imitate our bureaucratic methods. Among us the lack of the bare necessities has caused an intense scramble for an extra loaf of bread, an extra yard of cloth by everyone. In this struggle our bureaucracy steps forward as a conciliator, as an all-powerful court of arbitration. You, on the other hand, are much wealthier and would have little difficulty in supplying all of your people with all of the necessities of life. Moreover, your needs, tastes and habits would never permit your bureaucracy to divide the national income. Instead, when you organize your society to produce for human needs rather than private profits, your entire population will group itself around new trends and groups, which will struggle with one another and prevent an overweening bureaucracy from imposing itself upon them." -Leon Trotsky, *If America Should Go Communist*

2017-11-06 14:07:35 UTC  

This is one of the reasons the USSR and China failed

2017-11-06 14:07:47 UTC  

The USSR had shitty living conditions

2017-11-06 14:07:49 UTC  

Anyone interested in joining a new party on ModelUSGov on Reddit?

2017-11-06 14:07:52 UTC  

Like the state housing

2017-11-06 14:07:57 UTC  

It’s authoritarian left basically

2017-11-06 14:08:06 UTC  

That's why Cuba was a disaster. Batista destroyed most industries in Cuba, so trying to implement socialism would just crash onto itself

2017-11-06 14:08:06 UTC  

china maybe will replace of usa

2017-11-06 14:08:11 UTC  

which were addressed by Gorbachev

2017-11-06 14:08:16 UTC  

We’re gonna topple the cucked socialist party

2017-11-06 14:08:17 UTC  

which somewhat caused the market reforms

2017-11-06 14:08:32 UTC  

become a great power country

2017-11-06 14:08:34 UTC  

I would say Cuba was fairly successful

2017-11-06 14:08:36 UTC  
2017-11-06 14:08:40 UTC  

in some ways more than the USSR

2017-11-06 14:08:46 UTC  

Why does the left hate this man?

2017-11-06 14:09:25 UTC  

have you ever think that, China only developing just fucking 30years

2017-11-06 14:09:46 UTC  

Living Conditions in Cuba and the state housing system are generally terrible

2017-11-06 14:09:49 UTC  

how many years does usa developing ?

2017-11-06 14:10:05 UTC  

you engrish very well