I want the same thing, but I have no interest in the methods.

@Chillin Chum YES!

Well, that's where we diverge.

I value freedom to make mistakes over that.

Even if it means not everything will be perfect.

I would meet somewhere in the middle here

Now I’m gonna go ahead and ask

I don't fully know why, but some semblance of free will is important.

Unfortunately, at that point, things get more esoteric.

Wouldn’t a person who is doing something they’re interested in do a better job?

Not always, brick.

Rather than being forced to do it even if they dislike it?

Well, sure. Yeah.

But passions don't always make good careers either.

That is true and I’m aware of that fact

@Brickiest Brick Now that is a good question, my answer would be, if they do good at it, and are productive when working at it, and do their best job when doing so, then sure, let them at it.

Yeah I will agree with that then

However, if what they produce is still shit, then that is an issue they will have to sort out, either by practice, or by seeking something different.

Give an example of that scenario

So, happy to see that "radical centrist" can actually agree with you on something?

Even if he doesn't appreciate things being perfect?

@Brickiest Brick It is a little hard to describe in full detail, but say a person who works passionately at a job, but the item they produce at a factory is low quality, and he takes longer to produce the item, then he would have to practice until he became better at doing his job, or he would have to persue another job that he is compitent at.

That's not entirely different from what I see around here.

Well my view is this, if they are really and truly interested and dedicated to doing their job, eventually they will excel at it

Yes, practice does make perfect after all.

So if this person is making a shit product now, in time he may make the best product if he really likes doing it

Yes, that is what I am talking about, when I say that he should be given time to practice to become compitent in producing it.

Is there some kind of threshold or balance system for determining how “well-suited” a person is to assign them to a job?

Like in fascism how does the government determine where a person will work

If there is no free choice

@Brickiest Brick Remember what I said earlier about the product being graded on how much it benefits society.

Yes I do remember

What I meant to say, is that when a person is given a task to produce a product, it should be graded on how much it can benefit society, if it is inadequte, then they would be tasked with practicing to become better at their job, and if they still cannot do it, then they would have to be given a different job that they are better at.

People practice at different rates, though

It may take one person 1 month to create the ideal product while another may take 6 months

Mhm.

That is why the amount of time we would have to give to people would have to be based on what they are as a person.

AKA, on a case by case basis.

Alright so what you’re saying is freedom of choice is allowed?

At least to an extent

A limited extent, but yes, it takes some freedom for a person to realize what they are best at.