Message from @Brickiest Brick

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2017-12-05 11:03:26 UTC  

keep the jobs here

2017-12-05 11:03:27 UTC  

I am just lucky because I never had a kid or never got locked up

2017-12-05 11:03:47 UTC  

I think companies will always look at the bottom line no matter who they hurt

2017-12-05 11:04:29 UTC  

cheaper labor from poorer people or machines will always win out against the interests of the current workers imo

2017-12-05 11:05:04 UTC  

they will

2017-12-05 11:05:06 UTC  

I just wonder how society will cope as more and more work becomes automated leaving many without jobs

2017-12-05 11:05:15 UTC  

which is why actual necessary regulation is necessary

2017-12-05 11:05:18 UTC  

to prevent that

2017-12-05 11:05:31 UTC  

That's very true. It is always the more profitable option. We are long overdue for a UBI.

2017-12-05 11:05:57 UTC  

you must not regulate businesses in many respects because it stimulates growth and helps the owner, consumer and humble worker

2017-12-05 11:06:14 UTC  

you see economic competition is the driving force behind the economy

2017-12-05 11:06:26 UTC  

my main beef with UBI is that work imo is not just a way to get money to live and support yourself, people work to make goods and provide services to enrich the lives of other humans

2017-12-05 11:06:27 UTC  

this day in age however, government regulation has strangled small businesses

2017-12-05 11:06:34 UTC  

and thus, monopolies have formed everywhere

2017-12-05 11:06:43 UTC  

government is not the solution, government is the problem

2017-12-05 11:06:59 UTC  

every time government tried to "help" the consumer it's fucked them over

2017-12-05 11:07:14 UTC  

I would prefer a situation with 100% employment for the able bodied directed by the state to meet peoples needs make sure we all have are necessities then work for there

2017-12-05 11:07:17 UTC  

the government is directly responsible for the financial crisis of 2007

2017-12-05 11:07:18 UTC  

*from

2017-12-05 11:07:31 UTC  

There is no moral or logical reason as to why a technologically-advanced country is unable to provide a Universal Basic Income for it's citizens. A UBI can be supported by people adhering to various ideological positions. Hell, Friedman and Hayek voiced support for it.

2017-12-05 11:07:37 UTC  

capitalism would work if left unimpeded and with slight regulation here and there

2017-12-05 11:08:09 UTC  

that is a moral standpoint, not an economic standpoint

2017-12-05 11:08:25 UTC  

communism would be a true utopia and the idea of it is great

2017-12-05 11:08:36 UTC  

however, in reality it is doomed to fail

2017-12-05 11:08:39 UTC  

I think capitalism leads to charles dickens type nightmare of the past where people were working insane hours and barely scraping by

2017-12-05 11:08:50 UTC  

the capitalist system, with all its flaws, has proven to be best for workers

2017-12-05 11:08:57 UTC  

i will admit there are many flaws

2017-12-05 11:09:06 UTC  

possibly even more than communism

2017-12-05 11:09:14 UTC  

Support for a UBI is not simply a moral statement. It's been supported by numerous mainstream economists from both ends of the political spectrum. It would be highly beneficial in more ways than one.

2017-12-05 11:09:49 UTC  

I think having a huge part of the population not laboring to improve their lives or others would be the issue

2017-12-05 11:09:57 UTC  

that may be true, but you must keep this in mind also: you may have affordable healthcare, but where will that be in 20 years?

2017-12-05 11:10:05 UTC  

it will be the exact same healthcare as 20 years ago

2017-12-05 11:10:13 UTC  

the innovation stops when government steps in

2017-12-05 11:10:22 UTC  

I think we can use the state to fix major societal issues but it would need to take a lot more wealth from the rich and companies

2017-12-05 11:10:39 UTC  

not to mention how the government will pay for universal healthcare

2017-12-05 11:10:46 UTC  

through raising your taxes

2017-12-05 11:10:50 UTC  

which nobody needs

2017-12-05 11:11:01 UTC  

the state should not be in peoples' lives

2017-12-05 11:11:17 UTC  

you may think this because of your economic situation, but it's not the answer

2017-12-05 11:11:25 UTC  

I am ok to pay more taxes if it means people get the goods and services they need for a happy healthy life

2017-12-05 11:11:25 UTC  

it just makes matters worse