Message from @quiscalus
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and thus, monopolies have formed everywhere
government is not the solution, government is the problem
every time government tried to "help" the consumer it's fucked them over
I would prefer a situation with 100% employment for the able bodied directed by the state to meet peoples needs make sure we all have are necessities then work for there
the government is directly responsible for the financial crisis of 2007
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There is no moral or logical reason as to why a technologically-advanced country is unable to provide a Universal Basic Income for it's citizens. A UBI can be supported by people adhering to various ideological positions. Hell, Friedman and Hayek voiced support for it.
capitalism would work if left unimpeded and with slight regulation here and there
that is a moral standpoint, not an economic standpoint
communism would be a true utopia and the idea of it is great
however, in reality it is doomed to fail
I think capitalism leads to charles dickens type nightmare of the past where people were working insane hours and barely scraping by
the capitalist system, with all its flaws, has proven to be best for workers
i will admit there are many flaws
possibly even more than communism
Support for a UBI is not simply a moral statement. It's been supported by numerous mainstream economists from both ends of the political spectrum. It would be highly beneficial in more ways than one.
I think having a huge part of the population not laboring to improve their lives or others would be the issue
that may be true, but you must keep this in mind also: you may have affordable healthcare, but where will that be in 20 years?
it will be the exact same healthcare as 20 years ago
the innovation stops when government steps in
I think we can use the state to fix major societal issues but it would need to take a lot more wealth from the rich and companies
not to mention how the government will pay for universal healthcare
through raising your taxes
which nobody needs
the state should not be in peoples' lives
you may think this because of your economic situation, but it's not the answer
I am ok to pay more taxes if it means people get the goods and services they need for a happy healthy life
it just makes matters worse
no, if you pay more for taxes you will be worse off in your life
why would you support that
your already small wage will get smaller with more taxes
it's a false promise by corrupt politicians
@quiscalus I don't think that would be an issue when the laborer would be free to engage in meaningful work, and not have to sell their labor-power to an employer in order to engage in low-paying, overly-stressful work for long periods of time. It would also enable many, many people to not have to rely on government services deemed costly and inefficient.
I would prefer the state to organize workers to public works projects like making sure we all have clean water, or suitable housing, or other essential human needs
why would you trust the state to help you?
the "state" are just a bunch of beurocrats
I would prefer to see a society with 100% employment for the able bodied doing something to help their fellow man
they are just like business owners
they will do what's best for them
I think the important part is that the objective of the state is the will of the people and that democracy is an essential part in that
@quiscalus Well, it would be impossible to reach 100% full-employment. But every able-bodied individual has the right to work.