Message from @quiscalus

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2017-12-05 10:56:21 UTC  

and i agree there is a problem with the wealth inequality

2017-12-05 10:56:44 UTC  

No, it wouldn't have. She was treated especially harshly due to her immigrant status. I even heard him use a racial slur behind her back. The guy was a racist piece of horseshit.

2017-12-05 10:56:48 UTC  

the conditions of work are dangerous people have been seriously injured by EPJS, forklifts, and falling stacks. One dude from the Philippines has had his leg crushed by a stack that collapsed on him now his suffers from nerve pain and is lame they keep him on part time light duty to keep him from filing

2017-12-05 10:57:11 UTC  

alright so how do you propose we fix this mess

2017-12-05 10:57:24 UTC  

i dont think the solution is to generalize all employers as being racist greedy pigs

2017-12-05 10:57:31 UTC  

because that is clearly not the answer

2017-12-05 10:58:14 UTC  

I of course called him out on his shit, and even attempted to organize my coworkers, but was ultimately fired. I wasn't as knowledgeable then as I am now and didn't approach the organization process properly.

2017-12-05 10:58:15 UTC  

I am not sure what to do I think my coworkers are happy enough with the situation because it is much better than the work they get back home

2017-12-05 10:58:44 UTC  

you see the idea behind capitalism is that people would just move to a different employer, or go on strike

2017-12-05 10:59:00 UTC  

if you and your workers are being treated like this it's YOUR responsibility to stand up to your boss

2017-12-05 10:59:11 UTC  

he will give you what you want

2017-12-05 10:59:20 UTC  

without you, he's nothing

2017-12-05 10:59:21 UTC  

Did I succeed in raising morale and bringing my fellow workers to my side? Definitely. I did a good thing and even though I went in half-cocked, I'm still proud of myself for taking that stand.

2017-12-05 10:59:22 UTC  

like many of the people there are happy to work there because they get payed way more than they get payed back home but the laws are in favor of the farm owners and not the farm workers because the workers are poor immigrants with little political power and the owners are comically wealthy

2017-12-05 10:59:56 UTC  

you have control, not your boss

2017-12-05 11:00:02 UTC  

If I were to try that again now, I would
definitely turn my former-managers world upside down.

2017-12-05 11:00:06 UTC  

if your boss is shit, leave or strike

2017-12-05 11:00:12 UTC  

but there are so many poor people willing to replace us, the turnover rate at my work is very high but still there is more people in need of work than jobs

2017-12-05 11:00:40 UTC  

the solution for unemployment is lower taxes and less regulations on businesses

2017-12-05 11:00:54 UTC  

more jobs = less unemployed = economic stimulation

2017-12-05 11:01:09 UTC  

I would love to have night differential and have others get hazard pay and have the same rights as non agricultural workers but if I lose my job I will lose my apartment I don't have any savings I live check to check really

2017-12-05 11:01:49 UTC  

I really kick myself for never going to proper college

2017-12-05 11:02:32 UTC  

Unfortunately that isn't true. In the age of Monopoly Capitalism, multinational corporations will always cut-corners any way they can in order to maximize profits. Outsourcing would still be a thing even with deregulation because these same companies are unwilling to pay people a living wage.

2017-12-05 11:02:37 UTC  

I am not sure how to improve my and my fellow workers situation without jeopardizing my income

2017-12-05 11:03:20 UTC  

then give companies incentives to not outsource

2017-12-05 11:03:26 UTC  

keep the jobs here

2017-12-05 11:03:27 UTC  

I am just lucky because I never had a kid or never got locked up

2017-12-05 11:03:47 UTC  

I think companies will always look at the bottom line no matter who they hurt

2017-12-05 11:04:29 UTC  

cheaper labor from poorer people or machines will always win out against the interests of the current workers imo

2017-12-05 11:05:04 UTC  

they will

2017-12-05 11:05:06 UTC  

I just wonder how society will cope as more and more work becomes automated leaving many without jobs

2017-12-05 11:05:15 UTC  

which is why actual necessary regulation is necessary

2017-12-05 11:05:18 UTC  

to prevent that

2017-12-05 11:05:31 UTC  

That's very true. It is always the more profitable option. We are long overdue for a UBI.

2017-12-05 11:05:57 UTC  

you must not regulate businesses in many respects because it stimulates growth and helps the owner, consumer and humble worker

2017-12-05 11:06:14 UTC  

you see economic competition is the driving force behind the economy

2017-12-05 11:06:26 UTC  

my main beef with UBI is that work imo is not just a way to get money to live and support yourself, people work to make goods and provide services to enrich the lives of other humans

2017-12-05 11:06:27 UTC  

this day in age however, government regulation has strangled small businesses

2017-12-05 11:06:34 UTC  

and thus, monopolies have formed everywhere

2017-12-05 11:06:43 UTC  

government is not the solution, government is the problem

2017-12-05 11:06:59 UTC  

every time government tried to "help" the consumer it's fucked them over