Message from @Deleted User

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2017-12-05 10:48:38 UTC  

I have a leftist friend that gave me some iww pins actually

2017-12-05 10:48:43 UTC  

And I hear ya. Your apprehension is totally understandable.

2017-12-05 10:50:07 UTC  

I just get frustrated because the boss treats these immigrants like dirt and totally disposable while lots of people in american society blame them for things that are really symptoms of the failure of capitalism

2017-12-05 10:51:49 UTC  

it is weird because I talk with my coworkers who are fed up with how the company acts like they stopped doing hazard pay, night differential, any type of retirement plan, and skirt labor laws that normally apply because it is agriculture

2017-12-05 10:52:06 UTC  

Yeah, I live and work in a community with a large immigrant population and I've seen first hand the mistreatment they are subjected to on a daily basis. It's disgusting, and has served to re-enforce my ideological sympathies.

2017-12-05 10:52:41 UTC  

I feel I have it really good compared to them because they are such in a precarious situation

2017-12-05 10:52:56 UTC  

The thing is though, capitalism isn't failing, it's working exactly as it should.. which is not in the interests of the majority.

2017-12-05 10:52:59 UTC  

may i ask how the immigrants are treated by your bosses

2017-12-05 10:54:21 UTC  

pretty much they work super long hours until the work is done, the managers yell and curse at them I had one old man go home crying, normal labor laws don't apply so you get the strandard rate despite working overtime, they only provide holiday pay for 8 hours of work ever though people work 12 hours or more

2017-12-05 10:55:15 UTC  

have you spoke to them about this?

2017-12-05 10:55:17 UTC  

After high school, I worked for a local fast food joint and most of my coworkers were minorities. I witnessed my manager yell and spit on an old Mexican lady before smacking food out of her hand that she was going to feed her family with. Her crime? Taking food that would have otherwise been thrown directly into the garbage.

2017-12-05 10:55:43 UTC  

i'm not sure this is a product of xenophobia or racism though

2017-12-05 10:55:49 UTC  

if they were white it would be no different

2017-12-05 10:56:08 UTC  

i think the issue is just how poor these people are and being forced to work long hours

2017-12-05 10:56:21 UTC  

and i agree there is a problem with the wealth inequality

2017-12-05 10:56:44 UTC  

No, it wouldn't have. She was treated especially harshly due to her immigrant status. I even heard him use a racial slur behind her back. The guy was a racist piece of horseshit.

2017-12-05 10:56:48 UTC  

the conditions of work are dangerous people have been seriously injured by EPJS, forklifts, and falling stacks. One dude from the Philippines has had his leg crushed by a stack that collapsed on him now his suffers from nerve pain and is lame they keep him on part time light duty to keep him from filing

2017-12-05 10:57:11 UTC  

alright so how do you propose we fix this mess

2017-12-05 10:57:24 UTC  

i dont think the solution is to generalize all employers as being racist greedy pigs

2017-12-05 10:57:31 UTC  

because that is clearly not the answer

2017-12-05 10:58:14 UTC  

I of course called him out on his shit, and even attempted to organize my coworkers, but was ultimately fired. I wasn't as knowledgeable then as I am now and didn't approach the organization process properly.

2017-12-05 10:58:15 UTC  

I am not sure what to do I think my coworkers are happy enough with the situation because it is much better than the work they get back home

2017-12-05 10:58:44 UTC  

you see the idea behind capitalism is that people would just move to a different employer, or go on strike

2017-12-05 10:59:00 UTC  

if you and your workers are being treated like this it's YOUR responsibility to stand up to your boss

2017-12-05 10:59:11 UTC  

he will give you what you want

2017-12-05 10:59:20 UTC  

without you, he's nothing

2017-12-05 10:59:21 UTC  

Did I succeed in raising morale and bringing my fellow workers to my side? Definitely. I did a good thing and even though I went in half-cocked, I'm still proud of myself for taking that stand.

2017-12-05 10:59:22 UTC  

like many of the people there are happy to work there because they get payed way more than they get payed back home but the laws are in favor of the farm owners and not the farm workers because the workers are poor immigrants with little political power and the owners are comically wealthy

2017-12-05 10:59:56 UTC  

you have control, not your boss

2017-12-05 11:00:02 UTC  

If I were to try that again now, I would
definitely turn my former-managers world upside down.

2017-12-05 11:00:06 UTC  

if your boss is shit, leave or strike

2017-12-05 11:00:12 UTC  

but there are so many poor people willing to replace us, the turnover rate at my work is very high but still there is more people in need of work than jobs

2017-12-05 11:00:40 UTC  

the solution for unemployment is lower taxes and less regulations on businesses

2017-12-05 11:00:54 UTC  

more jobs = less unemployed = economic stimulation

2017-12-05 11:01:09 UTC  

I would love to have night differential and have others get hazard pay and have the same rights as non agricultural workers but if I lose my job I will lose my apartment I don't have any savings I live check to check really

2017-12-05 11:01:49 UTC  

I really kick myself for never going to proper college

2017-12-05 11:02:32 UTC  

Unfortunately that isn't true. In the age of Monopoly Capitalism, multinational corporations will always cut-corners any way they can in order to maximize profits. Outsourcing would still be a thing even with deregulation because these same companies are unwilling to pay people a living wage.

2017-12-05 11:02:37 UTC  

I am not sure how to improve my and my fellow workers situation without jeopardizing my income

2017-12-05 11:03:20 UTC  

then give companies incentives to not outsource

2017-12-05 11:03:26 UTC  

keep the jobs here

2017-12-05 11:03:27 UTC  

I am just lucky because I never had a kid or never got locked up