Message from @Garbage
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Its pretty clear when you say " doing what you fucking want"
like i said theer is little nuance ther m8
Wrong again, because what one 'fucking wants' is itself a historical thing, it is in motion, it's not an absolute.
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it kinda is
i mean you even added the "fucking " in there
>no nuance
pretty dertemative words
>oh, but here's determinative nuance!
*Consistency.*
o reall
enlighten us
where is the nuance when you say to do what one fucking wants
i think thats pretty absolute
And you're assuming what I mean.
there are butss>
Again, I mean that it's a provisional thing.
then you are not doing what ever you fucking want
What one wants is a historical thing...
what is this historical thing you keep mentiong
Maybe it's called... the movement of the social world itself.
so communism is not doing what ever you want, its a exploration proccess
why do you say that it is doing what ever you fucking want then ? when you are confined to social structures and collective goals
It is only 'doing what one fucking pleases' as much as it fits this process, which advances the 'doing of what one fucking pleases'.
The point is to change that structure.
And to change those goals.
yeah but those derive from necceity that comes from the collective
to which you then need to submit
But then that collective is itself influenced by individuals.
creating conformism and destroying your "do what you fucking want" thing
The collective is not a separate thing from individuals.
as you are now submitting to a collective and follow that cause
Conformity to what? The goal of making other goals easier to obtain?
lol thats vague
theer are more present needs at first
and mostly
so no
conformity to the sustaining of the collective comes first
Why not the sustaining of individuals who make up the collective instead?
Why not some individuals over others?