Message from @Garbage

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2019-07-04 15:49:47 UTC  

Here we go again.

2019-07-04 15:49:56 UTC  

even in some kind of bio chamber it would take time

2019-07-04 15:50:09 UTC  

time that will be taken away iof production time

2019-07-04 15:50:11 UTC  

But you don't know what technologies would exist.

2019-07-04 15:50:16 UTC  

it wouldnt be efficent

2019-07-04 15:50:26 UTC  

And you don't know about the scales of the resources that we might have.

2019-07-04 15:50:47 UTC  

it would be such a drain to make every one capable of being one thing one day and another thing the next that you will never be able to afford it

2019-07-04 15:51:15 UTC  

I'm sure that the feudalists would say the same of the gig economy.

2019-07-04 15:51:27 UTC  

the scale of teh resources, like you said is based partcially on the use of those resources is finite. And teh ability to handle these resources is finite as well

2019-07-04 15:51:45 UTC  

But they grow, do they not?

2019-07-04 15:51:53 UTC  

the resources were there during the feudal times they just dint know how to acces it

2019-07-04 15:51:58 UTC  

And I'm not saying that people have to change 'every day' right from the off.

2019-07-04 15:52:15 UTC  

and unless zero point energy becomes a thing you will always have energy consumtion

2019-07-04 15:52:17 UTC  

And the resources are there for us now in capitalism.

2019-07-04 15:52:30 UTC  

either way this is all idilic future talk not based in reality

2019-07-04 15:52:32 UTC  

Hell, we have *the asteroid belt* to mine.

2019-07-04 15:52:47 UTC  

Idyllic only because you think it's unachievable.

2019-07-04 15:52:59 UTC  

And if you say that this is the way to have marx his communism

2019-07-04 15:53:07 UTC  

we are not theer yet so we cant have it

2019-07-04 15:53:28 UTC  

because we have not developed tech and the biological being to the point were that idilic view is posible

2019-07-04 15:53:29 UTC  

We could have Communism today, actually, if there was a political force that could establish it.

2019-07-04 15:53:42 UTC  

The last one was the USSR, which is kaput.

2019-07-04 15:53:54 UTC  

You cannot abolish class as class is a natural phenonomemn

2019-07-04 15:54:06 UTC  

And nature is subject to be changed by us.

2019-07-04 15:54:19 UTC  

the ego

2019-07-04 15:54:28 UTC  

The reality of responsibility.

2019-07-04 15:54:32 UTC  

you also imply that this change is instant

2019-07-04 15:54:46 UTC  

It is not, it is hard. But it can and must be done.

2019-07-04 15:54:57 UTC  

and furtere more ignore the oprresion and sumitance requiered to reach that point

2019-07-04 15:55:14 UTC  

I've been over this many times.

2019-07-04 15:55:19 UTC  

'submission'

2019-07-04 15:55:28 UTC  

yeah you said that communsim will stomp shit

2019-07-04 15:55:35 UTC  

By your qualifications for what that word means, of course it's inescapable.

2019-07-04 15:55:42 UTC  

Which is why I said it's meaningless.

2019-07-04 15:56:01 UTC  

Got amnesia?

2019-07-04 15:56:16 UTC  

We stomp because it is the key to our freedom.

2019-07-04 15:56:48 UTC  

But it destroys it

2019-07-04 15:57:01 UTC  

you are only free when you conform

2019-07-04 15:57:07 UTC  

Your abstract, frozen freedom doesn't exist in the first place.

2019-07-04 15:57:21 UTC  

You are free when you conform to *reason*, to *yourself* as a self-conscious being.