and unless zero point energy becomes a thing you will always have energy consumtion

And the resources are there for us now in capitalism.

either way this is all idilic future talk not based in reality

Hell, we have *the asteroid belt* to mine.

Idyllic only because you think it's unachievable.

And if you say that this is the way to have marx his communism

we are not theer yet so we cant have it

because we have not developed tech and the biological being to the point were that idilic view is posible

We could have Communism today, actually, if there was a political force that could establish it.

The last one was the USSR, which is kaput.

You cannot abolish class as class is a natural phenonomemn

And nature is subject to be changed by us.

the ego

The reality of responsibility.

you also imply that this change is instant

It is not, it is hard. But it can and must be done.

and furtere more ignore the oprresion and sumitance requiered to reach that point

I've been over this many times.

'submission'

yeah you said that communsim will stomp shit

By your qualifications for what that word means, of course it's inescapable.

Which is why I said it's meaningless.

Got amnesia?

https://www.dictionary.com/browse/submit

We stomp because it is the key to our freedom.

But it destroys it

you are only free when you conform

Your abstract, frozen freedom doesn't exist in the first place.

You are free when you conform to *reason*, to *yourself* as a self-conscious being.

https://www.dictionary.com/browse/freedom?s=t

```
verb (used with object), sub·mit·ted, sub·mit·ting.
to give over or yield to the power or authority of another (often used reflexively).
to subject to some kind of treatment or influence.
to present for the approval, consideration, or decision of another or others:
to submit a plan; to submit an application.
to state or urge with deference; suggest or propose (usually followed by a clause):
I submit that full proof should be required.
verb (used without object), sub·mit·ted, sub·mit·ting.
to yield oneself to the power or authority of another:
to submit to a conqueror.
to allow oneself to be subjected to some kind of treatment:
to submit to chemotherapy.
to defer to another's judgment, opinion, decision, etc.:
I submit to your superior judgment.
```

Yeah thast from the link that i just posted

```noun
the state of being free or at liberty rather than in confinement or under physical restraint:
He won his freedom after a retrial.
exemption from external control, interference, regulation, etc.
the power to determine action without restraint.
political or national independence.
personal liberty, as opposed to bondage or slavery:
a slave who bought his freedom.
exemption from the presence of anything specified (usually followed by from):
freedom from fear.
the absence of or release from ties, obligations, etc.
ease or facility of movement or action:
to enjoy the freedom of living in the country.
frankness of manner or speech.
general exemption or immunity:
freedom from taxation.
the absence of ceremony or reserve.
a liberty taken.
a particular immunity or privilege enjoyed, as by a city or corporation:
freedom to levy taxes.
civil liberty, as opposed to subjection to an arbitrary or despotic government.
the right to enjoy all the privileges or special rights of citizenship, membership, etc., in a community or the like.
the right to frequent, enjoy, or use at will:
to have the freedom of a friend's library.
Philosophy. the power to exercise choice and make decisions without constraint from within or without; autonomy; self-determination.Compare necessity(def 7).```

I know.

oke just again posting copy paste that have no point

But this dodges the point.

Autism

What point

could you include this in your assumtion

>more amnesia

Freedom is submission to the self.