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>The russians were so hated that the people under them joined hitler
Lmao

>Many europeans literally hated the soviets and communism

To join in with my thing rates of defection varied, but Stalin not just the USSR's views but the view of Stalin was exceptionally great post WW2 and was given a lot of credit at fending off the Germans. German army also had more cavalry unites then tanks and was unprepared it was only thanks to some good generals they had they did as good as they did. The Soviets had a good view once the depression hit and people felt capitalism was dying.

I will say that between the two communists more then kinda won out on that one. Literally almost no nation today has a fascist party or if it does its under some crypto fascist hiding. But literally almost every nation has a communist party.

Wait

Why was my comment deleted?

Almost immediately when the germans came in the baltics mant baltics joined thee fight against the soviet and joined the nazis. You can still see baltic hatred against the soviets and communism today. Many i spoke with would even compare a russian to a demon.


Yes, russian hatred did lower down when the soviet joined the allies but it rose up after the war especially them holding eastern europe as hostage and after stalin's retarded move to blockade east berlin. Russian hatred is not only seen in ww2 but in pre-ww2 as well. Many europeans fear the overgrowing russian influence infact this is the reason why the germans were so determined to dismember the russians to prevent russian hegemony over europe (this is also the reason why the french were so determined to dismember the german reich to prevent german hegemony).

'Literally almost no nation today has a fascist party' ofc it's because fascism today is seen as taboo by many people. If they think of fascism they immediately think of nazis

Actually the russians has the biggest deploymeny of cavalry in ww2. The russians deployed atleast 3 million cavalry units while the germans only deployed 2.75 million

The germans deployed most cavalries as logistics not main forces like most nations that participated in the ww2 did. The germans knew that cavalry are easily killed by a machine gun.

Do not think the german forces was inferior because they had horses because many of nations that participated in ww2 also had horses

:This is a pasta i found and i find it rather interesting so posting it here:


On the whole the following conclusion can be drawn: that without these Western shipments under Lend-Lease the Soviet Union not only would not have been able to win the Great Patriotic War, it would not have been able even to oppose the German invaders, since it could not itself produce sufficient quantities of arms and military equipment or adequate supplies of fuel and ammunition. The Soviet authorities were well aware of this dependency on Lend-Lease. Thus, Stalin told Harry Hopkins [FDR’s emissary to Moscow in July 1941] that the U.S.S.R. could not match Germany’s might as an occupier of Europe and its resources.[24]

I would like to express my candid opinion about Stalin’s views on whether the Red Army and the Soviet Union could have coped with Nazi Germany and survived the war without aid from the United States and Britain. First, I would like to tell about some remarks Stalin made and repeated several times when we were “discussing freely” among ourselves. He stated bluntly that if the United States had not helped us, we would not have won the war. If we had had to fight Nazi Germany one on one, we could not have stood up against Germany’s pressure, and we would have lost the war. No one ever discussed this subject officially, and I don’t think Stalin left any written evidence of his opinion, but I will state here that several times in conversations with me he noted that these were the actual circumstances. He never made a special point of holding a conversation on the subject, but when we were engaged in some kind of relaxed conversation, going over international questions of the past and present, and when we would return to the subject of the path we had traveled during the war, that is what he said. When I listened to his remarks, I was fully in agreement with him, and today I am even more so.[30]

Baltics disliked Russia before due to Russian Empire, however some dislike Germany too for attempted German colonization. ww1 german empire had plans to make them into states.

"'Literally almost no nation today has a fascist party' ofc it's because fascism today is seen as taboo by many people. If they think of fascism they immediately think of nazis"

Doesn't bode well when trying to defend them.

"Yes, russian hatred did lower down when the soviet joined the allies but it rose up after the war especially them holding eastern europe as hostage and after Stalin's retarded move to blockade east berlin."

Not really hostage. I have a laugh when comparing say East and West Germany. East Germany remaining mostly well German and has support for more authoritarian parties which is attributed to the Soviets system. During the cold war one of the new nazi parties (think it was the german reich party) begrudgingly admitted the soviets were preferable but had a neutrality policy in their stance. I would go as far as to say the Soviets did things better then what the Nazis tried to do. Socialist programs, nationalism and pride in the nations.

On the copy pasta, its word from a dude, not self written down. But even on that what screwed the Germans over is the Soviets got encirclement at Stalingrad which then negatively effected the Germans and their army. And then they kept getting pushed. The other problem is this is even with Italians, Hungarians, Romanians, and Bulgarians, and Finns joining in.

'Baltics dislike russia before due to russian empire' true but it is also because of soviet occupation of the baltics. Many baltics saw the germans as liberators and joined them. There are many baltic ss eg. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/20th_Waffen_Grenadier_Division_of_the_SS_(1st_Estonian) https://secondworldwar.fandom.com/wiki/1st_Lithuanian_SS_Division https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Latvian_Legion (many people still view the nazis as liberators and i believe the baltics have marches in honor for the germans that caused alot of controversies)

You are true about that part in east germany but that doesn't change the fact east germany turned to shit while west germany prospered.

Oof sorry about that

Stalin himself recognized it that the soviet alone could not fend off the german advance

Also aren't countries in the eastern blocc unable to leave it? I believe many countries in eastern blocc tried to leave but the soviets suppressed them

I do agree that east germany was more german and that's one thing i like about east germany

"You are true about that part in east germany but that doesn't change the fact east germany turned to shit while west germany prospered."

West Germany was a colony of the United States, to use the words of Richard Spencer. A point I strangely agree with him on. I would hardly call it prospering as its well what modern Germany is. Le 56% Germany.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Fty23qExQA

Got to the point west germans made songs in favour of the ddr

>Also aren't countries in the eastern blocc unable to leave it? I believe many countries in eastern blocc tried to leave but the soviets suppressed them

Same thing with both NATO and even the Axis. Horthy once things started to go bad tried to bail, the nazis got angry and wasted manpower invading Hungary and then setting up another regime under arrow cross. Or with Italy where Germans attempted to salvage that situation in the North.

Or the Amerimutts with NATO which is their neo empire of sorts and the suppression of groups they did not like like communist ones both within USA and in NATO.

I was already familiar with those SS divisions and their attempts but they were small. They were also those that committed to resistance activities. To use how it could be used against you, it would be like people saying look at X resistance group in Germany and that is proof that the Germans are bad since people fighting them.

My family were borned in east germany and you are correct about west germany being a united states colony. West germany became ungerman and decadant.


The soviets however are much more violent on their suppression of countries leaving easternblocc


Natos are terrorist group so fuck them and the mutts.

Those were not the only baltics that joined the nazis and fought the soviets. I just showed you an example

Hail ddr btw https://youtu.be/DTV92wqYjfA

https://youtu.be/P1CyPjQQTAM english translation

"Natos are terrorist group so fuck them and the mutts. "

I agree.

"Those were not the only baltics that joined the nazis and fought the soviets. I just showed you an example"

I am sure but these still remain pretty small, and the add ons do not add much in that way. It could potentially even be reversed in some situations.

"The soviets however are much more violent on their suppression of countries leaving easternblocc"

I fail to see a difference for several reasons personally. The Axis powers and factions in general were about keeping their control. When one leaves people usually try to keep them in. For U.S examples Vietnam, which was a clusterfuck of the U.S constantly killing South Vietnamese leaders to keep their power. I can attest that 100% if a NATO nation went communist NATO would swoop in to crush them.

Problems with the nations leaving Warsaw was the aformentioned things. It would give NATO an opening, and some of them like the Hungarian one tried to be "nice guy socialists" I can see why they did it since NATO would try to swoop down on them like vultures.

@ᘛ⁐̤ᕐᐷ What do you think is wrong withnational socialism when you remove the propaganda with which you are programmed?

@(っ◔◡◔)っ ♥ doom clit ♥ ">Many europeans literally hated the soviets and communism" have you heard of the anti communard pact, the axis aliance was started in a rection to this

Do you ppl know that everythime amarica "he;ps out" they make ppl who they help out pay. This is why aid got blocked in vanuzuale

Forces create choas for regime change

then america steps in as the boot. They litteraly force "restoration development" on these nations

for which they have to pay for close to a century

Looks like I've got a mess to clean up.

@Deleted User Hey maggot.

I like how you tried to dodge responding to me in this channel again, trying to mix everything up in your usual fashion. You like creating messes, don't you?

***More than that: you dodged all of my other points without refuting them at all. You never did in the first place, you actually pretended that you did so.***

>muh deaths

You missed something. AGAIN.

>you looped

***I wonder why? Maybe it's because everything that I said before was never debunked?***