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So try again.
cyse a police or state is not a government perse
Repeating yourself does not make you correct.
ventralisation = force
but i said that in the centralization there will be a heircy with ppl with porwer
so you are actaully agreeding with me
but agreed to disagree 😄
Nope. I'm saying that centralisation is not equivalent to force.
its funny how you are saying the same thing but slander and ad hominem me for the same stance
You forgot what != means again, didn't you...?
and this isnt theionly subject you do this on
equal but not the same
"The term state refers to a form of polity, that is typically characterised as a centralized organisation. There is no single, undisputed, definition of what constitutes a state.[1][2] **A widely-used definition is a state being a polity that, within a given territory, __maintains a monopoly on the use of force__, but many other widely used definitions exist.**[3][4]"
'equal but not the same'
thats it right
How can something formally be equal and not the same as something else other than being another iteration of something within a category?
One apple is equal to another apple of exactly the same sort, but they're not the same apple...
...which means that you think that the only distinction between the two **is that they're just somehow not the same object**.
how is this relating to anything at al
But functionally, they would be doing the same thing, by your argumentation?
It didn't talk about centralisation.
its like you agree with me on substance but you have to disagree with me
'monopoly on the use of force' is not centralisation.
state is centralising hings
>he hasn't heard of federalism
inb4 not truly decentralised
it isnt
inb4 >no, there is still some centralisation
But this dodges the point entirely. I'm saying that centralisation is *irrelevant* as far as the definition that I've plucked from that article gives a shit.
wtf are you evven talking about
So you went ahead and pulled out your own. Your own source disagrees with you.
Keep up.
i said a state is not a goevernment perssee and you come with this shit to defend your claim that it is a lie
its a truth
a state is not a government persee
and you say that this is a lie
and you support this with a lot of sidetracking
>state is not a government
That's literally what I was saying the whole time.
Initially I accused you of saying that they are the same.