Message from @Blebleh
Discord ID: 317047128205688834
believing in morals doesn't make one an idealist but its a pretty good chance that any given moralist is a massive idealist
@ShadyMarxist I donnu, what u mean?
liberation theology?
@Arkras Tell me about communism you imagine.
moralists tend to think their perceptions of justice will ultimately prevail because of their political work, which is pretty textbook idealism
@ShadyMarxist A world with equal money, rights, freedom of religion, complete freedom of expression, a strong state and a lot of communes.
@ShadyMarxist I could write an essay about it, but I don't have time for that.
@Arkras I thought nobody crazier than Russian Orthodox Communist. But you guys have them too.
@ShadyMarxist are you saying that i'm crazy? But anyway I just want a strong state that protects the freedoms and right of the people.
@Arkras is it a sect within some religion?
@ShadyMarxist what are you refering to?
@Arkras your situation.
@ShadyMarxist Go read this: http://isj.org.uk/marxism-and-ethics/
or anyone really
We can never have a communist society without proper ethic grounding
Antihumanists could disagree
Althusserian people
@AngryChekist ethic grounding shall not be in a form of morality.
@ShadyMarxist I'm a freelancer, yes I belong to the Folkekirke (Peopleschurch), but I believe in what I want to.
@Arkras No offense here, but I think your conception of communism is influenced by bourgeois propaganda when saying that it's about a strong state and equal money
@ShadyMarxist what does that even mean
@Blebleh I don't think so. It is what I want, and it what the communists in Denmark strive for, so I really have no choice.
I understand that it could be used to electoral publicity
but first we make a distinction between socialism as first stage, and communism as the last stage. State conceived as the monopoly of violence and the organization of a class to oppress another
strong state would be in socialism, in the first phase, to make the dictatorship of the proletariat; that would mean the workers over the capitalists
in communism there wouldn't be capitalists and state would wither away
this is from marxism-leninism
Well I just role with what suits me!
and also, in socialism the principle is "to each according to his contribution"
only the private means of productions, aka enterprises are owned publicly; the personal property is yours and there isn't equality of money
although the socialization of the means makes more equality of money
because capitalists, who have a lot of money are expropriated
planning and so on
For an exsample I want people to live between 2000 US to around 5000 US.
I can see that the workers must own there workplace, but I think we also need regulations about how much you can make, and how much you minimum can make, because else we will get class division.
technically we can't get class division because the means are already owned by the workers and there's no market; but there could be parasitism between the same workers
I agree with you in this
what don't you like about ancoms?