Message from @ShadyMarxist

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2017-05-24 20:58:19 UTC  

But SD are capitalists?

2017-05-24 20:58:45 UTC  

@Arkras and you against revolutionary blood?

2017-05-24 20:58:57 UTC  

believing in morals doesn't make one an idealist but its a pretty good chance that any given moralist is a massive idealist

2017-05-24 20:59:35 UTC  

@ShadyMarxist I donnu, what u mean?

2017-05-24 21:00:02 UTC  

liberation theology?

2017-05-24 21:00:18 UTC  

@Arkras Tell me about communism you imagine.

2017-05-24 21:00:24 UTC  

moralists tend to think their perceptions of justice will ultimately prevail because of their political work, which is pretty textbook idealism

2017-05-24 21:02:35 UTC  

@ShadyMarxist A world with equal money, rights, freedom of religion, complete freedom of expression, a strong state and a lot of communes.

2017-05-24 21:03:17 UTC  

@ShadyMarxist I could write an essay about it, but I don't have time for that.

2017-05-24 21:04:53 UTC  

@Arkras I thought nobody crazier than Russian Orthodox Communist. But you guys have them too.

2017-05-24 21:06:58 UTC  

@ShadyMarxist are you saying that i'm crazy? But anyway I just want a strong state that protects the freedoms and right of the people.

2017-05-24 21:07:34 UTC  

@Arkras is it a sect within some religion?

2017-05-24 21:08:24 UTC  

@ShadyMarxist what are you refering to?

2017-05-24 21:08:49 UTC  

@Arkras your situation.

2017-05-24 21:09:00 UTC  

or anyone really

2017-05-24 21:09:25 UTC  

We can never have a communist society without proper ethic grounding

2017-05-24 21:09:58 UTC  

Antihumanists could disagree

2017-05-24 21:10:21 UTC  

Althusserian people

2017-05-24 21:10:38 UTC  

@AngryChekist ethic grounding shall not be in a form of morality.

2017-05-24 21:10:40 UTC  

@ShadyMarxist I'm a freelancer, yes I belong to the Folkekirke (Peopleschurch), but I believe in what I want to.

2017-05-24 21:12:05 UTC  

@Arkras No offense here, but I think your conception of communism is influenced by bourgeois propaganda when saying that it's about a strong state and equal money

2017-05-24 21:12:57 UTC  

@ShadyMarxist what does that even mean

2017-05-24 21:13:20 UTC  

@Blebleh I don't think so. It is what I want, and it what the communists in Denmark strive for, so I really have no choice.

2017-05-24 21:13:56 UTC  

I understand that it could be used to electoral publicity

2017-05-24 21:14:35 UTC  

but first we make a distinction between socialism as first stage, and communism as the last stage. State conceived as the monopoly of violence and the organization of a class to oppress another

2017-05-24 21:15:07 UTC  

strong state would be in socialism, in the first phase, to make the dictatorship of the proletariat; that would mean the workers over the capitalists

2017-05-24 21:15:23 UTC  

in communism there wouldn't be capitalists and state would wither away

2017-05-24 21:15:49 UTC  

@Blebleh Please don't say that you are a Ancom 😫

2017-05-24 21:15:59 UTC  

this is from marxism-leninism

2017-05-24 21:16:29 UTC  

Well I just role with what suits me!

2017-05-24 21:16:29 UTC  

and also, in socialism the principle is "to each according to his contribution"

2017-05-24 21:16:55 UTC  

only the private means of productions, aka enterprises are owned publicly; the personal property is yours and there isn't equality of money

2017-05-24 21:17:16 UTC  

although the socialization of the means makes more equality of money

2017-05-24 21:17:25 UTC  

because capitalists, who have a lot of money are expropriated

2017-05-24 21:17:37 UTC  

planning and so on

2017-05-24 21:18:57 UTC  

For an exsample I want people to live between 2000 US to around 5000 US.

2017-05-24 21:21:15 UTC  

I can see that the workers must own there workplace, but I think we also need regulations about how much you can make, and how much you minimum can make, because else we will get class division.

2017-05-24 21:22:23 UTC  

technically we can't get class division because the means are already owned by the workers and there's no market; but there could be parasitism between the same workers

2017-05-24 21:22:32 UTC  

I agree with you in this