Message from @ShadyMarxist
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So can't we talk about that?
@ShadyMarxist believing in morals does not make one a idealist
@Arkras then from another socdem is going to grow a new Fascist.
It all will come up together with maturity.
More authority with the same views
Fascism
But SD are capitalists?
@Arkras and you against revolutionary blood?
believing in morals doesn't make one an idealist but its a pretty good chance that any given moralist is a massive idealist
@ShadyMarxist I donnu, what u mean?
liberation theology?
@Arkras Tell me about communism you imagine.
moralists tend to think their perceptions of justice will ultimately prevail because of their political work, which is pretty textbook idealism
@ShadyMarxist A world with equal money, rights, freedom of religion, complete freedom of expression, a strong state and a lot of communes.
@ShadyMarxist I could write an essay about it, but I don't have time for that.
@Arkras I thought nobody crazier than Russian Orthodox Communist. But you guys have them too.
@ShadyMarxist are you saying that i'm crazy? But anyway I just want a strong state that protects the freedoms and right of the people.
@Arkras is it a sect within some religion?
@ShadyMarxist what are you refering to?
@ShadyMarxist Go read this: http://isj.org.uk/marxism-and-ethics/
or anyone really
We can never have a communist society without proper ethic grounding
Antihumanists could disagree
Althusserian people
@AngryChekist ethic grounding shall not be in a form of morality.
@ShadyMarxist I'm a freelancer, yes I belong to the Folkekirke (Peopleschurch), but I believe in what I want to.
@Arkras No offense here, but I think your conception of communism is influenced by bourgeois propaganda when saying that it's about a strong state and equal money
@ShadyMarxist what does that even mean
@Blebleh I don't think so. It is what I want, and it what the communists in Denmark strive for, so I really have no choice.
I understand that it could be used to electoral publicity
but first we make a distinction between socialism as first stage, and communism as the last stage. State conceived as the monopoly of violence and the organization of a class to oppress another
strong state would be in socialism, in the first phase, to make the dictatorship of the proletariat; that would mean the workers over the capitalists
in communism there wouldn't be capitalists and state would wither away
this is from marxism-leninism
Well I just role with what suits me!
and also, in socialism the principle is "to each according to his contribution"
only the private means of productions, aka enterprises are owned publicly; the personal property is yours and there isn't equality of money
although the socialization of the means makes more equality of money