@Arkras That presupposes a God that must be destroyed by humans as it's evil; a God that values more in a reward for believing in him (and with effort) than what humans do

@Blebleh I think god just created us, and spends his time creating away in far away. I also think that we were not created directly by god, we are a work of evolution.

@Arkras Definition of communism in one word by Lenin is - Materialism.

But well i just think that we all should atleast be medium left.

So can't we talk about that?

@ShadyMarxist believing in morals does not make one a idealist

@Arkras then from another socdem is going to grow a new Fascist.

It all will come up together with maturity.

More authority with the same views

Fascism

But SD are capitalists?

@Arkras and you against revolutionary blood?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_communism

believing in morals doesn't make one an idealist but its a pretty good chance that any given moralist is a massive idealist

@ShadyMarxist I donnu, what u mean?

liberation theology?

@Arkras Tell me about communism you imagine.

moralists tend to think their perceptions of justice will ultimately prevail because of their political work, which is pretty textbook idealism

@ShadyMarxist A world with equal money, rights, freedom of religion, complete freedom of expression, a strong state and a lot of communes.

@ShadyMarxist I could write an essay about it, but I don't have time for that.

@Arkras I thought nobody crazier than Russian Orthodox Communist. But you guys have them too.

@ShadyMarxist are you saying that i'm crazy? But anyway I just want a strong state that protects the freedoms and right of the people.

@Arkras is it a sect within some religion?

@ShadyMarxist what are you refering to?

@Arkras your situation.

@ShadyMarxist Go read this: http://isj.org.uk/marxism-and-ethics/

or anyone really

We can never have a communist society without proper ethic grounding

Antihumanists could disagree

Althusserian people

@AngryChekist ethic grounding shall not be in a form of morality.

@ShadyMarxist I'm a freelancer, yes I belong to the Folkekirke (Peopleschurch), but I believe in what I want to.

@Arkras No offense here, but I think your conception of communism is influenced by bourgeois propaganda when saying that it's about a strong state and equal money

@ShadyMarxist what does that even mean

@Blebleh I don't think so. It is what I want, and it what the communists in Denmark strive for, so I really have no choice.

I understand that it could be used to electoral publicity

but first we make a distinction between socialism as first stage, and communism as the last stage. State conceived as the monopoly of violence and the organization of a class to oppress another

strong state would be in socialism, in the first phase, to make the dictatorship of the proletariat; that would mean the workers over the capitalists

in communism there wouldn't be capitalists and state would wither away

@Blebleh Please don't say that you are a Ancom 😫

this is from marxism-leninism